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From: Goldwyn Rodrigues <rgoldwyn@suse.de>
To: ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com
Subject: [Ocfs2-devel] What's the need of OCFS2_INODE_MAYBE_ORPHANED?
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2014 10:34:30 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52CECF96.4050900@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52CEC915.8040908@oracle.com>

On 01/09/2014 10:06 AM, Srinivas Eeda wrote:
> On 01/09/2014 07:44 AM, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote:
>> Hi Srini,
>>
>> Thanks for the reply.
>>
>> On 01/08/2014 11:30 PM, Srinivas Eeda wrote:
>>>>>> >From the comments in fs/ocfs2/inode.h:90 it seems, this was used in
>>>>>> legacy ocfs2 systems when a node received unlink votes. Since unlink
>>>>>> votes has been done away with and replaced with open locks, is this
>>>>>> flag still required? If yes, why?
>>>>> My understanding is that unlink voting protocol was heavy. So the
>>>>> following was done to address it.
>>>>>
>>>>> To do an unlink, dentry has to be removed. In order to do that the
>>>>> node
>>>>> has to get EX lock on the dentry which means all other nodes have to
>>>>> downconvert. In general EX lock on dentry is acquired only in
>>>>> unlink and
>>>>> I assume rename case. So all nodes which down convert the lock mark
>>>>> their inode OCFS2_INODE_MAYBE_ORPHANED. The only problem with this is
>>>>> that dentry on a node can get purged because of memory pressure which
>>>>> marks inode as OCFS2_INODE_MAYBE_ORPHANED even when no unlink was done
>>>>> on this inode.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think you are getting confused between dentry_lock (dentry_lockres)
>>>> and open lock (ip_open_lockres). AFAICS, dentry locks are used to
>>>> control the remote dentries.
>>> I was trying to answer why we need OCFS2_INODE_MAYBE_ORPHANED flag, I
>>> guess I wasn't clear. I'll make an other attempt :).
>>>
>>> One way for node A to tell node B that an unlink had happened on node A
>>> is by sending an explicit message(something similar to what we had in
>>> old release). When node B received such communication it marked inode
>>> with OCFS2_INODE_MAYBE_ORPHANED flag if it still had the inode in use.
>>>
>>> The other way(current implementation) is to indirectly tell it by asking
>>> node B to purge dentry lockres. Once node B has been informed that
>>> dentry lock has to be released, it assumes inode might have been
>>> unlinked somewhere and marks the inode with OCFS2_INODE_MAYBE_ORPHANED
>>> flag.
>>>
>>> So, we need OCFS2_INODE_MAYBE_ORPHANED flag to tell node B that it
>>> should finish the second phase of unlink(remove the inode from file
>>> system) when it closes the file.
>>
>> Okay, but  why should node B do the cleanup/wipe when node A initiated
>> the unlink()? Shouldn't it be done by node A? All node B should do is
>> to write the inode and clear it from the cache. The sequence is
>> synchronized by dentry_lock. Right?
> removing dentry is only the first part. An inode can still be open after
> that.

Yes, I did not consider that.
How about using open locks ro_holders count to identify this? That may 
just work. Thanks!

>
>>
>> We are performing ocfs2_inode_lock() anyways which is re-reading the
>> inode from disk (for node A)
> node B should do the cleanup in this case because it is the last node to
> close the file. Node A, will do the first phase of unlink(remove dentry)
> and node B will do the second phase of unlink(remove the inode).
>

Agree. Lets see if we can use open locks for this.

Thanks!

-- 
Goldwyn

  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-09 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-09  0:12 [Ocfs2-devel] What's the need of OCFS2_INODE_MAYBE_ORPHANED? Goldwyn Rodrigues
2014-01-09  1:29 ` Srinivas Eeda
2014-01-09  3:12   ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2014-01-09  5:30     ` Srinivas Eeda
2014-01-09 10:23       ` Joel Becker
2014-01-09 13:35         ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2014-01-13 15:39           ` Joel Becker
2014-01-09 15:44       ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2014-01-09 16:06         ` Srinivas Eeda
2014-01-09 16:34           ` Goldwyn Rodrigues [this message]
2014-01-09 17:04             ` Srinivas Eeda
2014-01-09 17:27               ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2014-01-13 15:42                 ` Joel Becker
2014-01-15 15:35                   ` Goldwyn Rodrigues

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