From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B822D30AAA9; Fri, 7 Nov 2025 23:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1762557573; cv=none; b=OT4TZ02Slh1waiGIV5HMtJh9+eg5G87uW3LUCeiPkELKzp7P+Koa+LhHOIIjGvgorgPTV0aeKV46SSwKzCSoKLfbHyZw4d5vjGOhXY7F/AAK/Pp4kOh9XVr6sWcnNZVfEA5p24fXB8IiCdF4gAzxdGDBZbJ9ijDLJ7cKMdo/spY= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1762557573; c=relaxed/simple; bh=DrQoxBbAjEoZ9c9PwKBqN7vGjRvTrPovpS2VYuNMzWQ=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References: Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=kTygEtXI8M6pZVZJ/Cc/ebxCt4GpsYKZASfbGVlnvqWxZ4vSVsj7uMBeKrvejvrezkI2LmVaa8WDWxZMeQivgWi+PHbn8vnNiYjzGqiK+glpasv2+yYGLYMrpw0CIHQIGlrrE6PUlOnHjedcxG7i1GVSgFq1EGhg5JZbH1B/q4o= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=jEL6ZK4F; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="jEL6ZK4F" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3CB17C4CEF8; Fri, 7 Nov 2025 23:19:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1762557572; bh=DrQoxBbAjEoZ9c9PwKBqN7vGjRvTrPovpS2VYuNMzWQ=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=jEL6ZK4FEYKewZIjPCjU1fUIUgOhpcqPkRbod0hN0iFdJ1gcyVbUg8T5YUSXLwYxM vqGWcehT0Yvhkpbkkc9SbNvMqcb3hoQnMNYJTwjCUFHajvxhsDsKcY5PnqYEHWTlsG X3RCndZU4zfd6cgfRR5a3PcHa3HNFAvzgcp6/kKMmmWepbJo2eF145kiWNC49/Ampx j2obqsZev9HvzlHf8TzqDa+fnKNZ/FpPiqVMZFImq45r3yes0i7jtuyOPdekppA77e CfLoifsBjOuKU8wbYYy/MhEie0tuDuH8EEy8MtpJ7KzZWVOWlEPnC2tbYPyMyXq6j1 ohDs0iEetXo1Q== Message-ID: Subject: Re: LLM disclosure (was: [PATCH v2] vfs: remove the excl argument from the ->create() inode_operation) From: Jeff Layton To: Jonathan Corbet , NeilBrown Cc: Eric Van Hensbergen , Latchesar Ionkov , Dominique Martinet , Christian Schoenebeck , David Sterba , David Howells , Marc Dionne , Alexander Viro , Christian Brauner , Jan Kara , "Tigran A. 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Silva" , "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, v9fs@lists.linux.dev, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-afs@lists.infradead.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, codalist@coda.cs.cmu.edu, ecryptfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, gfs2@lists.linux.dev, linux-um@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, jfs-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-nilfs@vger.kernel.org, ntfs3@lists.linux.dev, ocfs2-devel@lists.linux.dev, linux-karma-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, devel@lists.orangefs.org, linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, samba-technical@lists.samba.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2025 18:19:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87ikfl1nfe.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> References: <20251107-create-excl-v2-1-f678165d7f3f@kernel.org> 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I probably could have given it better prompts. In any case, = I'm > > > not sure how to properly attribute this (or if I even need to). > >=20 > > My understanding is that if you fully understand (and can defend) the > > code change with all its motivations and implications as well as if you > > had written it yourself, then you don't need to attribute whatever fanc= y > > text editor or IDE (e.g. Claude) that you used to help produce the > > patch. >=20 > The proposed policy for such things is here, under review right now: >=20 > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251105231514.3167738-1-dave.hansen@linux.= intel.com/ >=20 > jon Thanks Jon. I'm guessing that this would fall under the "menial task" classification, and therefore doesn't need attribution. This seems applicable: + - Purely mechanical transformations like variable renaming This is a little different, but it's a similar rote task. --=20 Jeff Layton