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On 2025-06-02 1:09 p.m., Khem Raj wrote:
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On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 6:03=E2=80=AFAM Randy MacLeod <rwma= cleod@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Yash,


On Mon, Jun 2, 2025= , 07:15 Yash Shinde via lists.openembedded.org <Yash.Shinde=3Dwindriver.com@lists.openembedded.org> wrote:


On 30-05-2025 18:45, Alexander Kanavin wrote: 
On Fri, 30 May 2025 at 14:42, Yash Shinde <Yash.Shinde@windriver.c=
om> wrote:


As Khem mentioned, setting lld =3D false in =
config.toml doesn't build LLD.
Furthermore, using "use-lld =3D false" ensures that LLD is not =
used as the
default linker,
causing the build to fall back to the system's default linker. This
restores the earlier behavior.
Also, the package QA error for rust-lld is not seen with this.

What about build times though? Are they back t=
o what they were?

The build time differences on my machine are as follows:

rust version
 rust upstream builds
 rust-native (yocto build) rust target (yocto build)
v1.85.1
 10 mins
 20 mins
 33 mins
v1.86.0
22 mins (with "lld"= ; and "use-lld" set to "false")=
30 mins (with default settings i.e lld =3D true)

 31 mins (with "lld"= ; and
"use-lld" set to "false")= 		43 mins (with "lld"= ; and
"use-lld" set to "false")=

Note: The machine being used is a shared resource and fairly busy. Build times may differ due to other user's builds.


The FS usage is as follows:

Rust version
 rust upstream builds
 Yocto rust builds (build/tmp/work/core2-64-poky-linux/rust/1.86= .0/rustc-1.86.0-src/build)
v1.85.1
 4.6 G
 6.3 G
v1.86.0
 15 G
 8.8 G

The latest rust v1.86.0 upgrade changes are available at:
https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky-contrib/log/?h=3Dharish/rust= _1.86.0_v2


FS bloat is partly due to:
   1. we forgot to remove cargo from rust pkg,
   2. rust-analyzer added in 1.86, - do we need it?
   3. wasm-component-ld  built - do we need it?
   4. llvm-bitcode-linker      b= uilt - do we need it?

For now, drop the things we don't need by changing config.toml. We can consider adding them as disabled by default PACKAGECONFIG[feature] options later.

This is from looking at the packages-split contents and a filtered log.do_install.
Details and more info below.

../Randy



I expect that rust-analyzer is also the primary reason for the build time increase but hopefully Yash can confirm.

I dug through the log files a bit which I don't do often these days so maybe there's a better way to get
this info.

=E2=9D=AF rg  "^COMPILE|^Building" 1.85.1/log.do_in= stall | sed 's/ (.*)$//'  > 1.85.1/COMPILE-Building
=E2=9D=AF rg  "^COMPILE|^Building" 1.86/log.do_insta= ll | sed 's/ (.*)$//'  > 1.86/COMPILE-Building


Diffs below (1).


Initially I was looking at log.do_install and filtering out noise using a combination of grep, sed, and
emacs macros of all things!

I ended up reducing the log.do_install file length by an order of magnitude:
=E2=9D=AF wc -l */log.do_install
   13351 1.85.1/log.do_install
   22144 1.86/log.do_install

=E2=9D=AF wc -l */log.do_install.Compiling.fix-with-emacs.Compiling.sed-path
  1211 1.85.1/log.do_install.Compiling.fix-with-emacs.Compiling.sed-path   2103 1.86/log.do_install.Compiling.fix-with-emacs.Compiling.sed-path

Diff here:
https://www.diffchecker.com/hduQYfmq/

in case anyone is interested in the lower level build view.



1) diff -u and sdiff of high level COMPILE|Building

=E2=9C=A6 =E2=9D=AF diff -u 1.8*/COMPILE-Building
--- 1.85.1/COMPILE-Building    2025-06-03 14:11:34.8= 38212146 -0400
+++ 1.86/COMPILE-Building    2025-06-03 14:11:44.997= 206613 -0400
@@ -2,18 +2,36 @@
 Building bootstrap
 Building stage0 library artifacts
 Building compiler artifacts
+Building stage0 tool wasm-component-ld
+Building tool llvm-bitcode-linker
 Building stage1 library artifacts
 Building compiler artifacts
+Building stage1 tool wasm-component-ld
+Building tool llvm-bitcode-linker
 Building stage1 library artifacts
 Building stage0 tool rust-installer
 Building compiler artifacts
+Building stage1 tool wasm-component-ld
+Building tool llvm-bitcode-linker
 Building tool rustdoc
+Building tool rust-analyzer-proc-macro-srv
+Building stage0 tool generate-copyright
+Building tool cargo
+Building tool rust-analyzer
+Building tool rustfmt
+Building tool cargo-fmt
+Building tool clippy-driver
+Building tool cargo-clippy
 COMPILE rust install clippy
 Building bootstrap
 Building stage0 library artifacts
 Building compiler artifacts
+Building stage0 tool wasm-component-ld
+Building tool llvm-bitcode-linker
 Building stage1 library artifacts
 Building compiler artifacts
+Building stage1 tool wasm-component-ld
+Building tool llvm-bitcode-linker
 Building stage1 library artifacts
 Building compiler artifacts
 Building tool clippy-driver
@@ -23,8 +41,12 @@
 Building bootstrap
 Building stage0 library artifacts
 Building compiler artifacts
+Building stage0 tool wasm-component-ld
+Building tool llvm-bitcode-linker
 Building stage1 library artifacts
 Building compiler artifacts
+Building stage1 tool wasm-component-ld
+Building tool llvm-bitcode-linker
 Building stage1 library artifacts
 Building compiler artifacts
 Building tool rustfmt

=E2=9C=A6 =E2=9D=AF sdiff 1.8*/COMPILE-Bu= ilding
COMPILE rust install       &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;    COMPILE rust install
Building bootstrap        = ;            =     Building bootstrap
Building stage0 library artifacts     &n= bsp;          Building stage= 0 library artifacts
Building compiler artifacts      &n= bsp;           &nb= sp; Building compiler artifacts
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building stage0 tool wasm-component-ld
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building tool llvm-bitcode-linker
Building stage1 library artifacts     &n= bsp;          Building stage= 1 library artifacts
Building compiler artifacts      &n= bsp;           &nb= sp; Building compiler artifacts
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building stage1 tool wasm-component-ld
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building tool llvm-bitcode-linker
Building stage1 library artifacts     &n= bsp;          Building stage= 1 library artifacts
Building stage0 tool rust-installer     =            Building stage0 tool rust-installer
Building compiler artifacts      &n= bsp;           &nb= sp; Building compiler artifacts
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building stage1 tool wasm-component-ld
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building tool llvm-bitcode-linker
Building tool rustdoc       &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;    Building tool rustdoc
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building tool rust-analyzer-proc-macro-srv
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building stage0 tool generate-copyright
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building tool cargo
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building tool rust-analyzer
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building tool rustfmt
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building tool cargo-fmt
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building tool clippy-driver
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building tool cargo-clippy
COMPILE rust install clippy      &n= bsp;           &nb= sp; COMPILE rust install clippy
Building bootstrap        = ;            =     Building bootstrap
Building stage0 library artifacts     &n= bsp;          Building stage= 0 library artifacts
Building compiler artifacts      &n= bsp;           &nb= sp; Building compiler artifacts
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building stage0 tool wasm-component-ld
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building tool llvm-bitcode-linker
Building stage1 library artifacts     &n= bsp;          Building stage= 1 library artifacts
Building compiler artifacts      &n= bsp;           &nb= sp; Building compiler artifacts
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building stage1 tool wasm-component-ld
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building tool llvm-bitcode-linker
Building stage1 library artifacts     &n= bsp;          Building stage= 1 library artifacts
Building compiler artifacts      &n= bsp;           &nb= sp; Building compiler artifacts
Building tool clippy-driver      &n= bsp;           &nb= sp; Building tool clippy-driver
Building tool cargo-clippy      &nb= sp;           &nbs= p; Building tool cargo-clippy
Building stage0 tool rust-installer     =            Building stage0 tool rust-installer
COMPILE rust install rustfmt      &= nbsp;           &n= bsp; COMPILE rust install rustfmt
Building bootstrap        = ;            =     Building bootstrap
Building stage0 library artifacts     &n= bsp;          Building stage= 0 library artifacts
Building compiler artifacts      &n= bsp;           &nb= sp; Building compiler artifacts
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building stage0 tool wasm-component-ld
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building tool llvm-bitcode-linker
Building stage1 library artifacts     &n= bsp;          Building stage= 1 library artifacts
Building compiler artifacts      &n= bsp;           &nb= sp; Building compiler artifacts
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building stage1 tool wasm-component-ld
           = ;            =            > &n= bsp;  Building tool llvm-bitcode-linker
Building stage1 library artifacts     &n= bsp;          Building stage= 1 library artifacts
Building compiler artifacts      &n= bsp;           &nb= sp; Building compiler artifacts
Building tool rustfmt       &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;    Building tool rustfmt
Building tool cargo-fmt       =             &= nbsp;    Building tool cargo-fmt
Building stage0 tool rust-installer     =            Building stage0 tool rust-installer


Regards,
Yash


Hi Yash 


That's good progress. We'll need to think about what, it anything, we're missing by not building rust-lld. We should run some tests to compare the link times but that can likely wait until after we get the update merged. 


Though the internet has some information on lld improvements having this in OE context will be valuable.
I also think disabling lld is going to give us some reprieve. As more targets in rust seem to use it by default we need to consider that we do not start disabling defaults and wear off from upstream.
 

Remaining concerns:

 

1. Significant increase in FS usage, compile time. Have you looked into why there's still such a significant increase?

2.  * Enable INHIBIT_PACKAGE_DEBUG_SPLIT/STR= IP to fix QA stripping errors. Fixes: ERROR: rust-1.86.0-r0 do_package: QA Issue: File '/usr/lib/rustlib/x86_64-poky-linux-gnu/bin/wasm-compon= ent-ld' from rust was already stripped, this will prevent future debugging! [already-stripped] 


Do we use this component? Is it new? Why is it produced without debug symbols? 


I'll take a more careful look at the commit code changes once we have answers to these questions.


Thanks for your hard work. 
Almost done this upgrade hopefully.

Randy

Alex

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