Re: [RFC] recipes-efl inside meta-oe or meta-efl next to meta-oe?

[Joshua Lock <josh@linux.intel.com>]

On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 07:49 +0000, Graeme Gregory wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:27:28AM +0000, Richard Purdie wrote:
> > Have either of you ever tried to explain some of the concepts we're
> > dealing with to people who aren't deeply engaged engineers?
> > 
> Yes, everytime I apply for a new job/contract getting quite used to
> explaining it.
> 
> > Having a model showing the kinds of things layers can do is extremely
> > helpful in explaining the concept to people.
> > 
> > Part of OE's problem and the number one complaint about it is that its
> > hard to understand. If as I/others try and put things into terms that
> > others can understand get undermined with this kind of response its just
> > going to further the impression that OE is nice but never going to be
> > useful in the real world.
> > 
> > As for whether that diagram is practical, I actually believe it is in
> > some cases, like the one I described above. Certainly not all but its
> > worth trying to strive to simplify and make things fit simpler models
> > if/when we can. If we don't even bother trying, there is no chance
> > things will improve.
> > 
> 
> You miss my point, Joshua's email reads to me like "our goal is to make OE
> like this diagram" which if true would cripple OE to being incredibly simple
> and non flexible.

It certainly wasn't my intention to imply that, in fact the "me too"
strongly indicates that I agreed with you and that I personally thought
the diagram was a useful *aide* in explaining layers.

> 
> My vision of a seperated out OE is to seperate components out into logical
> boxes. Ie the gnome box, the kde box, the xorg box. Then like we used to do
> with our lego or mecheno sets. When we want to build something we know what
> components we want so we select the boxes that contain those components.

FWIW, this is the same vision I was already agreeing with.

Regards,
Joshua
-- 
Joshua Lock
        Yocto Build System Monkey
        Intel Open Source Technology Centre