From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from 93-97-173-237.zone5.bethere.co.uk ([93.97.173.237] helo=tim.rpsys.net) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ScPjB-0001hx-Bg for openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 01:33:25 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tim.rpsys.net (8.13.6/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q56NMvOu022542 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:22:57 +0100 Received: from tim.rpsys.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tim.rpsys.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22475-01 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:22:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.3.10] ([192.168.3.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by tim.rpsys.net (8.13.6/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q56NMoNR022536 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:22:51 +0100 Message-ID: <1339024972.20169.294.camel@ted> From: Richard Purdie To: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:22:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <1338960862-17401-1-git-send-email-sgw@linux.intel.com> <4FCF7959.3070102@linux.intel.com> X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.2- Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rpsys.net Subject: Re: [PATCH] gnomebase: add GNOME_COMPRESS_TYPE variable X-BeenThere: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer List-Id: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 23:33:25 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 19:51 +0200, Koen Kooi wrote: > Op 6 jun. 2012, om 17:38 heeft Saul Wold het volgende geschreven: > > > On 06/06/2012 03:46 AM, Burton, Ross wrote: > >> On 6 June 2012 06:34, Saul Wold wrote: > >>> Upstream Gnome projects are starting to migrate to the .xz > compress format, > >>> so we need to add this to allow recipes to override the default > of .bz2 as > >>> the upstreams make the transition. > >> > >> Considering all future tarballs are going to be .xz, would it make > >> sense to default to .xz and fix the recipes where there isn't > a .xz? > >> > > I think until we get a predominant number of the gnome packages > updated there is not much point in doing that as it would require > extra recipe edits. I think if we can do a batch update and then > switch the default that would make more sense. I will leave that up > to the new gnome recipe maintainer Valentin. > > When are the gnome recipes going to move out of OE-core? I keep seeing people mentioning their pet hates but nobody has put together a reasonable proposal encompassing all the different elements about how we could change the current set, thinking through the various implications. I will state once again for the record that we need enough in OE-Core that we can build some working environments which are testable. I do not want to end up in a position where we have a core which we can't actually test. I also want the core to contain enough pieces to actually be real world useful. I think the core today does that but if we start pulling out every gnome piece or X11 then it would not be as real world generally useful. I realise not everyone uses X11 but it does test a significant set of the system, be it kernel framebuffer drivers, the compiler etc. I'm not thrilled to have sato there either but again, until we can come up with a plan to replace it whilst still having a testable core, I don't want to remove it. Yes, I've said this before but since people keep asking the question, I'll have to keep repeating myself. Personally, I think there are bigger more pressing issues to deal with too... Cheers, Richard