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From: Phil Blundell <philb@gnu.org>
To: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: qemuarm: should it really have TUNE_ARCH armv5te?
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:02:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1347555734.1786.19.camel@phil-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50520E2E.1040804@windriver.com>

On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 11:47 -0500, Mark Hatle wrote:
> ARM seems to be the one exception, where you have three levels.. ABI 
> (EABI/hf-EABI), processor family (armv4, armv5, armv7, cortext....), and then 
> CPU optimization.  This seems to cause additional confusion, as the CPU 
> optimizations are not being captured in the current package ARCH, which makes it 
> difficult to optimize on a feed.

I guess that by "processor family" you mean ISA.  (I'm not aware of an
ARM ISA variant named "cortext", though I haven't really been keeping up
with the latest developments there so I could imagine that one might
exist.)

Anyway, the basic three-way scenario (ISA, ABI, optimisation) that you
describe above isn't in any sense unique to ARM; the concept of
per-cpu-model optimisation/tuning applies equally to other architectures
(x86 for example) as well.  It's probably less of an issue for MIPS but
I suspect that's more a reflection of gcc's weaker optimisation
capabilities on that architecture rather than a homogeous CPU
population.  I don't know PowerPC well enough to make any comment about
that.

There's no particular reason that the per-cpu tuning couldn't be
captured in PACKAGE_ARCH if one wanted to do it.  But the decision about
how to structure a binary feed is clearly one for the DISTRO and the
question of how to map that into PACKAGE_ARCH is, equally clearly, one
that the distro ought to be solving.  Since oe-core itself doesn't build
any feeds, I don't think there's any reason for it to make heroic
efforts to sort out the package architectures that would go into them.

p.





      reply	other threads:[~2012-09-13 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-11 13:01 qemuarm: should it really have TUNE_ARCH armv5te? Martin Jansa
2012-09-11 13:48 ` Martin Jansa
2012-09-11 15:51   ` ARM-tuning -- was " Mark Hatle
2012-09-11 15:59     ` Martin Jansa
2012-09-11 16:09       ` Mark Hatle
2012-09-11 16:22         ` Martin Jansa
2012-09-11 16:13     ` Koen Kooi
2012-09-11 18:40       ` Khem Raj
2012-09-11 18:53         ` Phil Blundell
2012-09-11 19:58           ` Khem Raj
2012-09-11 16:46 ` Phil Blundell
2012-09-11 16:53   ` Martin Jansa
2012-09-11 17:14     ` Phil Blundell
2012-09-11 17:21       ` Martin Jansa
2012-09-11 17:35         ` Martin Jansa
2012-09-11 17:37           ` Phil Blundell
2012-09-11 17:43             ` Martin Jansa
2012-09-11 18:00               ` Mark Hatle
2012-09-12 14:33 ` Richard Purdie
2012-09-13  6:20   ` Martin Jansa
2012-09-13 10:42     ` Richard Purdie
2012-09-13 12:14       ` Martin Jansa
2012-09-13 12:58         ` Richard Purdie
2012-09-15  7:01           ` Martin Jansa
2012-09-21 15:52             ` Martin Jansa
2012-09-22 11:48               ` Richard Purdie
2012-09-13 16:47       ` Mark Hatle
2012-09-13 17:02         ` Phil Blundell [this message]

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