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Subject: Re: proposal to move cogl, clutter and related recipes from oe-core to dedicated meta-clutter layer
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On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 16:11 +0100, Tomas Frydrych wrote:
> I think it would makes sense to move clutter related packages from
> oe-core into a dedicated layer:
> 
> * AFAIK nothing in oe-core requires cogl/clutter/mx,
> 
> * The packages in oe-core are effectively unmaintained, several upstream
> releases behind, and pretty much unusable,

I think this would be a fine idea.  As you observe, the recipes in
oe-core today are old, slightly hokey, and not a whole lot of use for
much.  We are currently maintaining our own clutter recipes in a local
layer but it would be nice to have something else upstream to lean on.

One particular issue for us is that the clutter recipes as they stand in
oe-core are very X11-centric.  We don't have X and, instead, use the
eglnative backend.  It'd be handy for us if some putative refactoring of
the recipes made them more friendly to non-X11 deployments.

p.