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From: Patrick Ohly <patrick.ohly@intel.com>
To: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Christopher Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com>,
	OE-core <openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] Add opengl to REQUIRED_DISTRO_FEATURES for some recipes
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2017 11:35:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1483612528.28169.74.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1483606265.4367.75.camel@linuxfoundation.org>

On Thu, 2017-01-05 at 08:51 +0000, Richard Purdie wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-01-05 at 08:32 +0100, Patrick Ohly wrote:
> > On Wed, 2017-01-04 at 23:49 +0000, Burton, Ross wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 4 January 2017 at 22:57, Christopher Larson <kergoth@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >         These aren't buildable without it, and adding it fixes oe-
> > > core
> > >         world builds
> > >         with nodistro (which does not have the opengl feature by
> > >         default).
> > >         
> > > 
> > > Am I still the only person who thinks skipping of recipes should be
> > > recursive, so if say libx11 throws a SkipRecipe then everything
> > > else
> > > that depends on it is also magically skipped?
> > Not at all, I'd also prefer that. If recipe "foo" has some obscure
> > conditions when it can be built, then repeating those conditions in
> > any
> > recipe depending on "foo" is a maintenance headache.
> > 
> > Last time I brought this up, it was mentioned as advantage of the
> > current approach that conditions are explicit and thus less
> > surprising.
> > There's some truth to that, but I don't believe that it outweighs the
> > disadvantages.
> 
> Imagine for example that we accidentally add some condition which
> results in 50% of the recipes being skipped. "bitbake world" would pass
> if this auto-skipping functionality was implemented. I worry that it
> would make it really easy to hide some subset of completely a non-
> buildable recipes which we can't even easily identify other than
> directly trying to build each target. We added something to avoid that
> (the world target).

Shouldn't it be caught by QA when expected functionality suddenly
disappears? But I guess that would only work in a perfect world; in
practice, QA coverage isn't sufficient and some recipes are indeed
merely in a "we know it compiles" state.

> The second problem is the actual implementation of it. I've never come
> up with a sane way to address this problem and give errors where people
> would want them yet hide the cases where people really don't want to be
> bothered, its very hard to make it work well at the bitbake level and
> the code is already complex/fragile enough.

How about a compromise: instead of repeating some (potentially complex)
checks in every recipe affected by this, could we have a "skip recipe
foo if dependencies are unavailable" check?

-- 
Best Regards, Patrick Ohly

The content of this message is my personal opinion only and although
I am an employee of Intel, the statements I make here in no way
represent Intel's position on the issue, nor am I authorized to speak
on behalf of Intel on this matter.





  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-05 10:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-04 22:57 [PATCH 0/6] Add opengl to REQUIRED_DISTRO_FEATURES for some recipes Christopher Larson
2017-01-04 22:57 ` [PATCH 1/6] waffle: add opengl to REQUIRED_DISTRO_FEATURES Christopher Larson
2017-01-04 22:57 ` [PATCH 2/6] piglit: " Christopher Larson
2017-01-04 22:57 ` [PATCH 3/6] libglu: " Christopher Larson
2017-01-04 23:34   ` Phil Blundell
2017-01-04 22:57 ` [PATCH 4/6] eglinfo-x11: " Christopher Larson
2017-01-04 22:57 ` [PATCH 5/6] packagegroup-self-hosted: " Christopher Larson
2017-01-04 22:57 ` [PATCH 6/6] packagegroup-core-lsb: " Christopher Larson
2017-01-04 23:49 ` [PATCH 0/6] Add opengl to REQUIRED_DISTRO_FEATURES for some recipes Burton, Ross
2017-01-05  0:52   ` Khem Raj
2017-01-05  1:13   ` Christopher Larson
2017-01-05  1:27     ` Khem Raj
2017-01-05  7:32   ` Patrick Ohly
2017-01-05  8:51     ` Richard Purdie
2017-01-05 10:35       ` Patrick Ohly [this message]
2017-01-05  8:54   ` Richard Purdie

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