Re: RFE: make the init manager an image feature (again)

[Martin Jansa <martin.jansa@gmail.com>]

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On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 04:47:37PM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Enrico Scholz
> <enrico.scholz@sigma-chemnitz.de> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > it would be nice when the decision to make the init manager a distribution
> > feature will be reverted to the old oe-meta mechanism.
> >
> > Being a distribution feature means, that packages are created in such a
> > way that it is impossible to split off unwanted and heavy weighted
> > functionality at image creation time.
> >
> > E.g. on most of my systems, I create two kinds of images: a full
> > featured, systemd based one and a very minimal rescue system with
> > busybox and some filesystem utilities.  With recent systemd packaging
> > change, the rescue image size grow up from 5.9 MiB to 27 MiB because
> > systemd dependencies are hardcoded in mandatory packages.
> >
> > Formerly, systemd dependencies could be avoided by adding the -systemd
> > packages to BAD_RECOMMENDATIONS (e.g. due to busybox-syslog ->
> > busybox-syslog-systemd rrecommend).
> >
> > I am aware that initscripts were always part of the main package.  But
> > sysvinit was very lightweighted and the extra space either negligible or
> > easy to recover by removing some files in IMAGE_PREPROCESS_COMMAND.
> >
> > Hence my recommendation: make the init manager an image feature again
> > and create -systemd and -sysv packages with the corresponding scripts.
> > OpenEmbedded is still for embedded devices where size matters.
> >
> >
> > Of course, systemd can be still a distribution feature to enable things
> > like socket activation as part of PACKAGE_CONFIG.  But dependencies on
> > init system packages should be RRECOMMENDS which can be overridden
> > easily at image creation time.
> 
> I fully support this! I also want this flexibility back (in fact I see
> no reason why it has been dropped).

me too

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Martin 'JaMa' Jansa     jabber: Martin.Jansa@gmail.com

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