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From: Martin Jansa <martin.jansa@gmail.com>
To: Paul Eggleton <paul.eggleton@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Darren Hart <dvhart@linux.intel.com>,
	Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer
	<openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>,
	"Garman, Scott A" <scott.a.garman@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Stable Release Process
Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 19:34:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130531173450.GC23802@jama> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2278334.0GkpBHEP1r@helios>

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On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 05:34:51PM +0100, Paul Eggleton wrote:
> Hi Darren,
> 
> Sorry it's taken me so long to reply to this.
> 
> On Wednesday 24 April 2013 10:32:54 Darren Hart wrote:
> > As the stable releases become first class citizens, we should probably
> > look at streamlining the process of getting patches to them.
> > 
> > The maintainer for the stable release currently changes by release,
> > which undoubtedly creates some confusion of where to send patches and
> > who to CC. These maintainers currently attempt to track these
> > patches via email filters searching for release branch names and such,
> > which is proving tedious and prone to missing patches.
> > 
> > Other projects have seen good results using a stable list for this
> > purpose. This would both make it obvious when a patch is intended for a
> > stable release as well as remove any confusion about who to Cc as it
> > would be the same list for all releases. Perhaps something like
> > openembedded-core-stable@lists.openembedded.org?
> 
> In the OE-Classic days we used to have an openembedded-stablebranch mailing 
> list for the same purpose. I don't recall anyone complaining about that when 
> we had it, so this sounds like it could help with the aforementioned issues.
> 
> The downside I can see is that it's one more mailing list with the associated 
> problems of not everyone monitoring it ("that patch of mine shouldn't have 
> been backported!" or "you backported one of my patches but missed an 
> associated one"), and new users erroneously emailing it with requests for help 
> that should have gone to the normal mailing list. That could however be 
> outweighed by the advantage of stable branch patches not being drowned out by 
> the rest of the patches as they currently can be.
> 
> > In addition to the list, some policy would need to be documented on how
> > to use the list. For example, it should always be Cc'd, and never
> > emailed with patches directly that don't go first to the master branch.
> > Backports being the exception. A policy could also be put in place to
> > aid in automatic processing, such as that employed by the Linux kernel
> > stable project. The following would request that the patch be applied to
> > the denzil and danny stable releases:
> > 
> > Cc: <openembedded-core-stable@lists.openembedded.org> # denzil
> > Cc: <openembedded-core-stable@lists.openembedded.org> # danny
> > Signed-off-by: Darren Hart <dvhart@linux.intel.com>
> > 
> > The advantage here over something like a subject tag, "[danny]" is that
> > it scales a bit better to sending a patch for multiple releases.
> > 
> > There are certainly other approaches, I mention this one as it has a
> > proven track record and I don't have a reason to deviate from it.
> 
> I'm not familiar with this, but I've never had any direct contact with the 
> kernel patch submission process so that might explain it. I have to say I'm 
> not unhappy with the existing convention we have of marking it in the title of 
> the email though.
> 
> I'd like to hear more opinions from others, particularly submitters of stable 
> branch patches and other stable branch maintainers who have been doing it 
> longer than I have. Ping...?

I like subject tags, at least because they are nicely shown in patchwork
subject, so I can easily sort incoming patches to right bundles.

And this problem with scaling when sending a patch for multiple
releases we already have when tagging multiple affected layers (which happens
more often for meta-oe layers then multiple releases).

-- 
Martin 'JaMa' Jansa     jabber: Martin.Jansa@gmail.com

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-05-31 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-24 17:32 Stable Release Process Darren Hart
2013-05-31 16:34 ` Paul Eggleton
2013-05-31 17:27   ` Darren Hart
2013-05-31 17:34   ` Martin Jansa [this message]
2013-05-31 17:44     ` Darren Hart
2013-06-03  6:00       ` Koen Kooi
2013-06-03 11:18         ` Philip Balister
2013-06-03 16:22           ` Darren Hart

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