From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mailout4.zoneedit.com (mailout4.zoneedit.com [64.68.198.17]) by mail.openembedded.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF6C60111 for ; Fri, 12 May 2017 18:15:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout4.zoneedit.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7221520B86; Fri, 12 May 2017 18:15:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout4.zoneedit.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmo03-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ok925wbvEsrE; Fri, 12 May 2017 18:15:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.denix.org (pool-100-15-85-143.washdc.fios.verizon.net [100.15.85.143]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout4.zoneedit.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 38ED220069; Fri, 12 May 2017 18:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.denix.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BF9DD1624C1; Fri, 12 May 2017 14:15:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 14:15:07 -0400 From: Denys Dmytriyenko To: Khem Raj Message-ID: <20170512181507.GJ28053@denix.org> References: <655290B7709079438B7932553958E60D16D2C5FA@ESS-EX01.essvote.corp.local> <7f60f107-1157-3991-b5bc-0fa4564e6905@linux.intel.com> <655290B7709079438B7932553958E60D16D2C67F@ESS-EX01.essvote.corp.local> <6f1e8992-7469-12bc-1307-2a9d0ca7d61e@linux.intel.com> <811d49ba-ac83-5a52-6687-e3447d06659b@mlbassoc.com> <655290B7709079438B7932553958E60D16D2C9F2@ESS-EX01.essvote.corp.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: "openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org" , Gary Thomas Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/10] Add openssl 1.1 X-BeenThere: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 18:15:11 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 02:08:26PM -0700, Khem Raj wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Davis, Michael > wrote: > > I think most of the major distros have either switched or are in the process > > this year. > > > > are there some info on the policy decisions of other distros ? > we should try to follow the suite then Khem, https://wiki.debian.org/OpenSSL-1.1 Binary packages have X.Y version in the package name: libssl1.1_1.1.0c-2~bpo8+1_amd64.deb libssl1.0.0_1.0.2k-1~bpo8+1_amd64.deb As of OE, we've handled such updates with incompatible API in the past similarly - gstreamer vs. gstreamer010 -- Denys > > From: openembedded-core-bounces@lists.openembedded.org > > [mailto:openembedded-core-bounces@lists.openembedded.org] On Behalf Of Khem > > Raj > > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 3:36 PM > > To: Alexander Kanavin; Gary Thomas; openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org > > Subject: Re: [OE-core] [RFC PATCH 00/10] Add openssl 1.1 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 12:34 PM Alexander Kanavin > > wrote: > > > > On 05/10/2017 09:56 PM, Gary Thomas wrote: > >> Why not do this in a "softer" way - make the new 1.1 package have the > >> obscured name (and not be preferred by default)? That way existing > >> uses of the older 1.0 package can continue but users can migrate to > >> 1.1 as they see fit? > > > > I have an answer which you might not particularly like. But here goes: > > > > What will actually happen is that no one will do anything to port their > > stuff until it's time to remove 1.0 because upstream has EOLd it. And > > then there'll still be complaints that more time is needed for the > > transition. I'd like to gently push people to plan this transition > > already now - and it's as gentle as it can be: if you pull from master > > and your things no longer build, make one simple change and they will. > > It's part and parcel of being on the bleeding edge, or rebasing to the > > new yocto release: not everything works exactly as before, and most > > components are newer and different and not always fully compatible. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a cross distro item really we should find out what other Linux > > distributions are doing about it moving forward unless major distros also > > have same policy there won't be much momentum this would gain among the > > packages ecosystems this could also help in sharing the porting burden > > > > > > > > The other reason is that it's more work for me: I would have to update > > everything in oe-core to use the new recipe, instead of fixing just a > > few recipes that need to stay with 1.0. And then again the same thing > > will happen when 1.2 is out. > > > > Alex > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > Openembedded-core mailing list > > Openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org > > http://lists.openembedded.org/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-core > -- > _______________________________________________ > Openembedded-core mailing list > Openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org > http://lists.openembedded.org/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-core