From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.stusta.mhn.de (mail.stusta.mhn.de [141.84.69.5]) by mail.openembedded.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67387E4A5 for ; Fri, 24 May 2019 17:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.stusta.mhn.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 459YGg5vzzz40; Fri, 24 May 2019 19:27:39 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=stusta.de; s=default; t=1558718861; bh=49hVo51jBPVMILlVJiUfcAX8Hr+0L8zbOkRVm9h71kU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=EPEzCs3nyXbyJqEiG3FCno4S/k8KIRupVqUNP5vu415d2c19DU2VJjKrdh7Ugoi1u tnAS18uINNeeIj8DGVjRIFckPHYcGjlEAfjtXqhIRQSKomwHbWaaMcuUPIPpwKgnbV DTPxS8hmN4mWkWz5fFxcbjIFs+Z6T83zMPxpkOgOVbnVhttxocRohcvplaBgotv19z qof9K5XFBnuKczEl/cG2FOk3zRBdKHOWVOQ9x+2ch21Z6lgBjfDdyctNebF/PLDag/ BFeZPdph/kfPKbqnLFXQ/y/8GtJJkz6Sgj83OkMJ3DGj01cVUoMQSO78Qs+xdOwnMe 9+E1xyfsOzCtAqeL5wnR5C0CBmIoQO+88WNk+kg4jR92mOlr+hKENVAVlGQVBBmZE6 +nHs8I85TQQmjGCAmbU5b1mrYS8FnJCg2tTuuODPlSqY/78avUWfClvZ8OWjj3iaXg 4+hAOlds8XggYzwNcWyEhLDmugRLgg4woLwOUl+8yFM17uJSMVMioLuUpimFQjSneE UWNxbQW02aUXxT+K8JndJYVXfHnr92BNg52yAguRZEesqJBA4iiWuXeFI+SXGXL0WZ i/NsMBrKx2SgY+m0un+Vn5h7tdUqrig4rUR6yef/7KX+vXT7u5XBEYHeRVLl8S4twA 9WBcrpDpT1EzLHobpE5JtZno= Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 20:27:37 +0300 From: Adrian Bunk To: Khem Raj Message-ID: <20190524172737.GA6813@localhost> References: <20190523103352.GA25084@localhost> <45b3b2b0-02c0-1073-df0b-2ab03df1bb29@windriver.com> <20190524101211.GA25912@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Cc: OE-core Subject: Re: Should systemd be marked as incompatible with musl? X-BeenThere: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 17:27:42 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 09:13:08AM -0700, Khem Raj wrote: > > > On 5/24/19 3:12 AM, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 07:16:53PM -0700, Khem Raj wrote: > > > ... > > > but I think dropping > > > systemd support completely from musl is not an option I would like to go > > > with, there are cases where this makes sense. Especially when you have to > > > cater to different set of devices from small to big, userspace remaining > > > same is big advantage atleast in the world I am in. > > > ... > > > > That's a good point - when arguing against systemd as default init system. > > > > systemd is bigger than glibc, therefore on very small systems where the > > size of the C library matters using systemd is usually not an option. > > Yes, design-wise I concur, in practice, desktop distros rule the linux world > and systemd is quite prevalent there, Desktop distros don't use musl - it wouldn't make sense. > so sometimes you have to wear the > shoes of same color, atleast thats what I see. Is any musl-using distribution supporting it with systemd? After a cursory look around it doesn't seem that trying to support the weird combination of systemd and musl brings compatibility with anyone else. > apps want to run uniformly on both OE and non-OE systems This implies using glibc, which is the correct choice in most cases. cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed