From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Alexander Kanavin <alex.kanavin@gmail.com>
Cc: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer
<openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/13] python: update to 2.7.17
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 11:49:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191130094948.GA4526@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANNYZj_2+0+6Suq0Gu74t+QDhx3mdb6FZsr2mwy8WhtNk493ug@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 12:30:41PM +0100, Alexander Kanavin wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 08:58, Tim Orling <ticotimo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I have the beginnings of scripts to generate a meta-python2 layer. Someone
> > with a vested interest in keeping python2 supported will need to step up to
> > maintain it. After bitbake and Oe-core moved to python3, my use of python2
> > has gone to near zero.
> >
> > I intend to move all python2 recipes from meta-python to the new layer.
> > meta-python will become python3 only in 3.1 release timeframe. The bb files
> > and inc files will also be merged, simplifying AUH and devtool usage.
> >
> > Attempts to send python2 patches to meta-python after that shift will be
> > nacked.
>
> Thanks! There is however a missing part: how close is meta-oe to being
> py2-free? Oe-core is very close (u-boot is the last holdout as noted), but
> I am not sure that we can simply take out py2, and not have half of meta-oe
> fail. For instance (random example) mozjs, a fairly important component,
> still pulls it in, together with a few 3rd party libraries:
> https://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-oe/recipes-extended/mozjs/mozjs_60.5.2.bb
>
> It's tempting to force the transition by breaking things, but it also
> antagonizes users.
The problem is not that half of meta-oe would fail, but the few hard cases.
There might be 1 or 2 recipes where the rational solution would be to
keep Python 2 in meta-oe for one release until a new upstream of these
recipes solves the problem.
AFAIK for nodejs the choice for Yocto 3.1 will be between a short-term
stable that can be built with Python 3 but will become EOL shortly after
Yocto 3.1 releases, and an LTS release with upstream support for 2 more
years that needs Python 2.
Python 2 is security supportable without upstream support since many
other distributions have committed to do the same, security supporting
Node.js without upstream support might be impossible.
> Alex
cu
Adrian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-11-30 9:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-11-18 13:07 [PATCH 01/13] python: update to 2.7.17 Alexander Kanavin
2019-11-18 13:07 ` [PATCH 02/13] runqemu: add options that enable virgl with the SDL frontend Alexander Kanavin
2019-11-18 13:07 ` [PATCH 03/13] oe-selftest: extend virgl gtk test to also check the SDL option Alexander Kanavin
2019-11-18 13:07 ` [PATCH 04/13] tiff: update to 4.1.0 Alexander Kanavin
2019-11-18 13:07 ` [PATCH 05/13] librepo: upgrade 1.10.6 -> 1.11.0 Alexander Kanavin
2019-11-18 13:07 ` [PATCH 06/13] btrfs-tools: upgrade 5.3 -> 5.3.1 Alexander Kanavin
2019-11-18 13:07 ` [PATCH 07/13] psmisc: update to 23.3 Alexander Kanavin
2019-11-18 13:07 ` [PATCH 08/13] libxslt: update to 1.1.34 Alexander Kanavin
2019-11-18 13:07 ` [PATCH 09/13] Revert "devtool/standard.py: Not filtering devtool workspace for devtool finish" Alexander Kanavin
2019-11-18 13:07 ` [PATCH 10/13] mpg123: upgrade 1.25.12 -> 1.25.13 Alexander Kanavin
2019-11-18 13:07 ` [PATCH 11/13] vala: upgrade 0.46.3 -> 0.46.4 Alexander Kanavin
2019-11-18 13:08 ` [PATCH 12/13] systat: upstream version check is working again Alexander Kanavin
2019-11-18 13:47 ` Peter Kjellerstedt
2019-11-18 13:08 ` [PATCH 13/13] man-pages: correct the SRC_URI Alexander Kanavin
2019-11-18 13:31 ` ✗ patchtest: failure for "python: update to 2.7.17..." and 12 more Patchwork
2019-11-18 18:13 ` [PATCH 01/13] python: update to 2.7.17 Khem Raj
2019-11-18 21:05 ` Adrian Bunk
2019-11-18 21:39 ` Khem Raj
2019-11-18 22:06 ` Adrian Bunk
2019-11-18 22:16 ` Khem Raj
2019-11-18 22:34 ` Ross Burton
2019-11-18 22:55 ` Adrian Bunk
2019-11-18 23:26 ` Khem Raj
2019-11-19 7:57 ` Tim Orling
2019-11-19 11:30 ` Alexander Kanavin
2019-11-19 15:49 ` Khem Raj
2019-11-19 16:30 ` Adrian Bunk
2019-11-19 16:47 ` Khem Raj
2019-11-20 11:57 ` Ross Burton
2019-11-25 3:36 ` Adrian Bunk
2019-11-19 22:44 ` Andreas Müller
2019-11-30 9:49 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2019-11-19 11:24 ` Alexander Kanavin
2019-11-20 12:56 ` Tom Rini
2019-11-20 13:47 ` Alexander Kanavin
2019-11-20 13:50 ` Tom Rini
2019-11-20 15:06 ` Alexander Kanavin
2019-11-20 15:08 ` Tom Rini
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2019-11-18 14:28 Alexander Kanavin
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