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From: "Adrian Bunk" <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Alex Kiernan <alex.kiernan@gmail.com>
Cc: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer
	<openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>
Subject: Re: [OE-Core][RFC PATCH 06/13] systemd: Add PACKAGECONFIG for sysvinit
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 21:13:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200326191315.GB5401@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO5Uq5R-zAdk06WRwKY3e_4ycNCHcy7oNGbWf8DOfLTY-SHLSw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 06:08:52PM +0000, Alex Kiernan wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 5:33 PM Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 03:54:55PM +0000, Alex Kiernan wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 2:56 PM Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:54:19AM +0000, Alex Kiernan wrote:
> > > > > Add sysvinit PACKAGECONFIG which is bound to DISTRO_FEATURES, this
> > > > > then disables all sysvinit handling in systemd if it isn't present.
> > > > >
> > > > > Consolidate sysvinit handling so that when it's disabled we exclude all
> > > > > sysvinit features.
> > > > >...
> > > >
> > > > What exactly are "sysvinit handling" and "sysvinit features"?
> > > >
> > > > It seems to disable systemd-sysv-generator, and this is wrong.
> > >
> > > Like this it sets HAVE_SYSV_COMPAT which does disable
> > > systemd-sysv-generator, but if sysvinit is disabled completely in the
> > > distro, I'm missing why that's a bad thing?
> > >
> > > Or have I misunderstood what sysvinit in DISTRO_FEATURES is meant to
> > > mean?
> >
> > sysvinit in DISTRO_FEATURES means that sysvinit is supported as init system.
> >
> > > I'd taken in that sysvinit not present in DISTRO_FEATURES meant
> > > that packages should install systemd units, not rely on init scripts.
> >
> > Packages that do provide both are not the relevant ones.
> >
> > For packages that can provide both, if the init script gets installed
> > it is ignored by systemd when there is also a systemd unit.
> >
> > systemd-sysv-generator provides support for packages that do not
> > (yet) provide a systemd unit, only an init script.
> >
> > Disabling this could save a few bytes on a small system when no
> > installed package needs it, but this is not in any way related
> > to sysvinit in DISTRO_FEATURES.
> 
> That's the piece of context I'm missing then... so whilst adding
> sysvinit as a PACKAGECONFIG is valid, it shouldn't be linked to
> DISTRO_FEATURES?

Yes, and it should stay enabled by default.

cu
Adrian

  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-26 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-26  8:54 [OE-Core][RFC PATCH 00/13] Systemd 245 and related updates Alex Kiernan
2020-03-26  8:54 ` [OE-Core][RFC PATCH 01/13] systemd: Use PACKAGE_BEFORE_PN, not =+ Alex Kiernan
2020-03-26  8:54 ` [OE-Core][RFC PATCH 02/13] systemd: Package udev rules explicitly Alex Kiernan
2020-03-26  8:54 ` [OE-Core][RFC PATCH 03/13] systemd: Replace nonarch_base_libdir with rootlibexecdir Alex Kiernan
2020-03-26  8:54 ` [OE-Core][RFC PATCH 04/13] systemd: Reinstate systemd-hwdb-update.service Alex Kiernan
2020-03-26  8:54 ` [OE-Core][RFC PATCH 05/13] systemd: Add sch-fq-codel to RRECOMMENDS Alex Kiernan
2020-03-26  8:54 ` [OE-Core][RFC PATCH 06/13] systemd: Add PACKAGECONFIG for sysvinit Alex Kiernan
2020-03-26 14:56   ` Adrian Bunk
2020-03-26 15:54     ` Alex Kiernan
2020-03-26 17:32       ` Adrian Bunk
2020-03-26 18:08         ` Alex Kiernan
2020-03-26 19:13           ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2020-03-26 19:21             ` Otavio Salvador
2020-03-26 18:17         ` Andre McCurdy
2020-03-26 18:32           ` Otavio Salvador
2020-03-26 19:12             ` Adrian Bunk
2020-03-26  8:54 ` [OE-Core][RFC PATCH 07/13] systemd: Remove X11 related files when disabled Alex Kiernan
2020-03-26  8:54 ` [OE-Core][RFC PATCH 08/13] systemd: Enable smack based on DISTRO_FEATURES Alex Kiernan
2020-03-26  8:54 ` [OE-Core][RFC PATCH 09/13] systemd: Enable audit " Alex Kiernan
2020-03-26  8:54 ` [OE-Core][RFC PATCH 10/13] systemd: Enable acl " Alex Kiernan
2020-03-26  8:54 ` [OE-Core][RFC PATCH 11/13] psplash: Set RemainAfterExit on systemd units Alex Kiernan
2020-03-26  8:54 ` [OE-Core][RFC PATCH 12/13] oeqa/runtime/cases: Disable and stop systemd-timesyncd Alex Kiernan
2020-03-26  8:54 ` [OE-Core][RFC PATCH 13/13] systemd: upgrade v244.3 -> v245.2 Alex Kiernan
2020-03-26 12:27 ` [OE-Core][RFC PATCH 00/13] Systemd 245 and related updates Otavio Salvador

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