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From: Scott Garman <scott.a.garman@intel.com>
To: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: Conflicting providers for ssh/sshd (dropbear and	openssh)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:03:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E0B5AE1.6030006@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7848FD2A-860F-48C3-BE1D-739C6D9AB0A8@dominion.thruhere.net>

On 06/29/2011 01:56 AM, Koen Kooi wrote:
>
> Op 29 jun 2011, om 10:50 heeft Anders Darander het volgende
> geschreven:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:24, Koen
>> Kooi<koen@dominion.thruhere.net>  wrote:
>>> Op 29 jun 2011, om 00:41 heeft Khem Raj het volgende geschreven:
>>>> If they are independent then may be the openssh recipe should
>>>> be divided into openssh-ssh and openssh-rest so one can use
>>>> openssh provided daemon or dropbear provided as they wish
>>>
>>> Dividing the openssl recipe would gain us little and the gains
>>> would be only for the power companies since you'd have to build
>>> openssh twice to get both sftp and ssh. The decrease in build
>>> time for only sftp is neglible.
>>
>> Hm, speaking against what I've often been advocating (reducing
>> build time by factoring out dependenies etc)...
>>
>> I think the simplest and most straightforward solution is to just
>> split the packaging into openssh-ssh and openssh-sftp, where
>> openssh-sftp packages just what is needed for handling the
>> sftp-server in cooperation with dropbear. It could possibly also
>> include the sftp-client if desired/needed.
>
> That's already the case now. The problem is the PROVIDES overlap
> since the Poky people decided a distro could only have one true ssh
> implementation instead of choosing it per image. So if your distro
> doesn't set the PREFERRED_PROVIDER_sshd you get those nagging
> messages during parsing that scare users and make consultants rich.
>
> OE .dev isn't a lot better with the misguided DISTRO_SSH_DAEMON, but
> at least it doesn't show those nag messages.

It's worth noting that one of the things I got into master just after 
Yocto 1.0 shipped was a refactoring of how ssh servers were specified. 
It no longer is a distro choice - we have task-core-ssh-openssh and 
task-core-ssh-dropbear that you add to IMAGE_FEATURES for your desired 
image.

Which makes me wonder what the consequences would be to simply remove 
the PROVIDES from the dropbear and openssh recipes?

Scott

-- 
Scott Garman
Embedded Linux Engineer - Yocto Project
Intel Open Source Technology Center



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-06-29 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-28 22:41 Conflicting providers for ssh/sshd (dropbear and openssh) Khem Raj
2011-06-28 22:51 ` Scott Garman
2011-06-28 23:50   ` Khem Raj
2011-06-28 23:53     ` Graeme Gregory
2011-06-29  1:07       ` Khem Raj
2011-06-29  7:42   ` Anders Darander
2011-06-29  0:34 ` Scott Garman
2011-06-29  8:24 ` Koen Kooi
2011-06-29  8:50   ` Anders Darander
2011-06-29  8:56     ` Koen Kooi
2011-06-29  9:08       ` Phil Blundell
2011-06-29  9:42         ` Richard Purdie
2011-06-29  9:51           ` Phil Blundell
2011-06-29 10:23             ` Richard Purdie
2011-06-29  9:13       ` Anders Darander
2011-06-29 17:03       ` Scott Garman [this message]
2011-07-03 12:26       ` Philip Balister
2011-07-03 15:41         ` Graeme Gregory
2011-06-29  8:56     ` Graeme Gregory

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