From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from relay1.mentorg.com ([192.94.38.131]) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qnz0d-0005SP-Iu for openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 22:22:43 +0200 Received: from svr-orw-exc-10.mgc.mentorg.com ([147.34.98.58]) by relay1.mentorg.com with esmtp id 1QnywQ-00015z-PH from Tom_Rini@mentor.com for openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:18:22 -0700 Received: from SVR-ORW-FEM-04.mgc.mentorg.com ([147.34.97.41]) by SVR-ORW-EXC-10.mgc.mentorg.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 1 Aug 2011 13:15:07 -0700 Received: from [172.30.80.87] (147.34.91.1) by svr-orw-fem-04.mgc.mentorg.com (147.34.97.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.289.1; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 13:18:22 -0700 Message-ID: <4E3709FF.4090904@mentor.com> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 13:18:07 -0700 From: Tom Rini Organization: Mentor Graphics Corporation User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110617 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <1312206333.2344.456.camel@rex> <4E36FDA2.7030001@mentor.com> <1312228607.2344.526.camel@rex> In-Reply-To: <1312228607.2344.526.camel@rex> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2011 20:15:07.0827 (UTC) FILETIME=[B53B4830:01CC5087] Subject: Re: Commits to master in my absence X-BeenThere: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer List-Id: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 20:22:43 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/01/2011 12:56 PM, Richard Purdie wrote: > On Mon, 2011-08-01 at 12:25 -0700, Tom Rini wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 08/01/2011 06:45 AM, Richard Purdie wrote: >> >>> I'm a little frustrated to see what happened when I was away from a >>> couple of days. I thought we'd agreed we'd queue up patches in a branch >>> and then I'd take care of things when I got back. >> >> So, I agree with everything you did say. But I'd also like to suggest >> we should have gone with "merge everything Monday" not "merge everything >> Wednesday before RP runs off". Yes, this would have meant either moving >> some testing, or having testing also pull from a different (merged) >> branch. And I too was "wait, what, more stuff went in? I thought we >> caught the big problem already". > > If I'd merged everything unexpectedly and not communicated the situation > I think that would be bad. As it was, I did merge things but I also > hopefully clearly communicated the issues and the expectation. Master is > the development tip and some instability, particularly as new features > merge is not entirely unexpected at this point in the cycle. > > I'd hope we don't end up in a situation like that again, if we do, I'll > see what other options there and weigh them up as the situation > dictates. Yes, it was an intentional and communicated decision. I guess what my gut says right now is that while some folks are willing to live with some "it's broken, try again in a few days or go back to ...", a lot of the community expects things to be mostly working, and there was also some "ok, I want to expand / use this stuff, but..." that we ran into, which really is situation dependent. And yes, next time we will need to weigh the options once again. - -- Tom Rini Mentor Graphics Corporation -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJONwn7AAoJEI4NMjfc3nJx2vQH/2u2MKHdqhsHNfoZoHlhPCJQ jk144kwp69HHVS9gKjiJCf1fkum9MTblT5V5VDIYgoD2yHDBnCe/P/9GWS8rlTcq lUweqPMDuWvoWPEGRWnNLPAnXP+bsWqoQLGEUuHkcmMag4yJsJSZYTmU6btTOSNa ON6Q4RnkTcD08AiHark/R5YHS46HaQ6tVyRpK3DgMUgfGVGnYa0EFzGG73p6q44x GKsXqNRverf4uu9KbnRTcciuxeIytGlZ3ewT9yHJBcKOjaT9a8FEkA03fHOIqRy/ VJnfjOL4NbdoSRa67INQm8nAnI20WzxCrkzZPJ/2+VXXCfrZ4TFiabUviocPpmA= =oTtt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----