From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oa0-f44.google.com (mail-oa0-f44.google.com [209.85.219.44]) by mail.openembedded.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF04621BB for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 05:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id n16so7920887oag.17 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:33:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=enf4AM8rgiPph3vk/JLkAKkP2994eV1t6ZKA1BQ7tUQ=; b=TmiQLflt8aGm0J1MEI4WneAB3uIra5ns9k3/0qnlRkIRP9Qd9nRQYb6PoG/PnSQ7C7 BIMj7YKKyv8ks7FTNl2H6AXxMS8890IqA5E38LxpCf/Nbynz2mz1/WBoCOgYxYEQ84dD q4NaP42RcMboQcNPk802B9ylL6Us7+KpYoMhAIQJvBwjsx+9OxnsSwZ48Xc8FKLtsY/O qIpCGgZMl6IcfIf95Dq9ZXuCLEYMFeRs5g32HT3sHUIwm1RH7fTIgQIxke54hgflOZej 1331eGCxaWq80wzO6xevA0ECG+wpBuc8v+Q0GtqwvJOVtDKPXoHPQs6LCmhqDYXk0Qwn 0/rw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl+JLxQv/J4S1+wiIdD55cjJh4I+a3p3zU2DfP7062XO7un02V2z4Z2e/GHPUXt20PqeRNK X-Received: by 10.182.24.8 with SMTP id q8mr417066obf.38.1396157629148; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.141.83] (69-165-220-158.dsl.teksavvy.com. [69.165.220.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id oz15sm43998858oeb.13.2014.03.29.22.33.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5337ACBB.4040804@linaro.org> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 01:33:47 -0400 From: Trevor Woerner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Jansa , openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org, openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org References: <20140330013103.GD2428@jama> In-Reply-To: <20140330013103.GD2428@jama> Subject: Re: Quality of meta-oe metadata X-BeenThere: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 05:33:51 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Martin, Excellent, excellent post! On 03/29/14 21:31, Martin Jansa wrote: > 2) There are a lot of changes and component upgrades in oe-core which > sometimes aren't very straight-forward to adapt to and issues stay in > meta-oe for months. Critical bugfixes aside, I think the current system of unrestrained, perpetual package bumps is an issue. If dylan uses version 1 of package XYZ and dora uses version 5, is there any need for the 3 intervening package bumps which occurred between the release of dylan and dora? If nothing else, these "irrelevant updates" increase the chance of causing problems ;-) > 3) OE releases work great and don't invalidate sstate signatures so often, so my > feeling is that most developers and projects are just using releases and > less and less people do CI. Would users prefer a better-tested more-likely-to-work release containing package versions which were several months old, or is staying on the bleeding edge more important? There is always exponentially more work/cost required to be an early adopter.