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From: Alexander Kanavin <alexander.kanavin@linux.intel.com>
To: Martin Jansa <martin.jansa@gmail.com>
Cc: OE Core mailing list <openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>
Subject: Re: meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:12:34 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55D31322.60908@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150818075409.GA2458@jama>

On 08/18/2015 10:54 AM, Martin Jansa wrote:

> Now we see a lot of upgrades in oe-core which are done by people just
> because "package upgrade report" says it's possible and the upgrade is
> tested mostly by autobuilder (which doesn't exersize any "extra" layers
> and runtime-test coverage is very low) - so in the end many of these
> "good to have" upgrades are breaking some other components which aren't
> upgraded so often or breaking/changing runtime behavior and only couple
> months later someone who is actually using them will report that.

The alternative isn't great either. Older, out-of-date software tends to 
require more effort to backport security fixes and prevent bitrot (maybe 
as much effort as would be spent simply updating it to latest versions). 
Or if no one does the backporting then you have an insecure software stack.

Then, when gigantic, must-have updates happen, they take forever to 
prepare, review, (rebase, update, review)* and merge, they're met with 
more resistance, and cause even more breakage and pain in the other 
layers than if the same thing would have been achieved via small, 
incremental updates.

Test automation is being worked on, so when that is in place, then 
rolling, small updates approach will be clearly superior.

Regards,
Alex


  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-18 11:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-09  7:14 [PATCH] parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3 Lei Maohui
2015-07-09 11:33 ` alexander.kanavin
2015-07-09 11:38   ` Otavio Salvador
2015-07-10 22:31     ` Burton, Ross
2015-07-11  7:20       ` Andre McCurdy
2015-07-11  7:57         ` meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3] Richard Purdie
2015-07-30 12:06           ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-07-30 23:14             ` Andre McCurdy
2015-07-31 11:41               ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-08-07  6:12                 ` Khem Raj
2015-08-07  9:17                   ` Philip Balister
2015-08-07 12:26                     ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-08-07 19:16                       ` Khem Raj
2015-08-08 17:09                       ` Philip Balister
2015-08-10 12:13                         ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-08-10 19:15                           ` Philip Balister
2015-08-11 13:26                             ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-08-11 15:46                               ` Khem Raj
2015-08-11 20:36                                 ` Burton, Ross
2015-08-11 20:46                                   ` Otavio Salvador
2015-08-13  8:42                                     ` Philip Balister
2015-08-13 14:29                                       ` Mark Hatle
2015-08-14  1:43                                       ` Andre McCurdy
2015-08-18  9:03                                       ` Martin Jansa
2015-08-18 10:11                                         ` Richard Purdie
2015-08-18 11:16                                           ` Martin Jansa
2015-08-18 11:27                                             ` Richard Purdie
2015-08-11 23:26                                   ` Khem Raj
2015-08-12 14:49                                   ` Mark Hatle
2015-08-13  9:59                                     ` Anders Darander
2015-08-18  7:54                       ` Martin Jansa
2015-08-18 11:12                         ` Alexander Kanavin [this message]
2015-08-07  6:10           ` Khem Raj
2015-07-10  3:20   ` [PATCH] parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3 Lei, Maohui

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