From: Alexander Kanavin <alexander.kanavin@linux.intel.com>
To: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/29] Add gobject introspection support to oe-core
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:14:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56433F27.60001@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56433A3D.9060104@linux.intel.com>
On 11/11/2015 02:53 PM, Alexander Kanavin wrote:
>> Same reason gtk-doc's scanner executes code: vast amounts of relevant
>> information can't reliably be extracted from source but is trivial to
>> introspect at runtime (GObject hierarchy, properties, signals, etc).
>
> Yep; the real problem is that GObject is implementing OOP semantics in a
> language that doesn't natively support them. So you can't extract
> information about those either from the source code, or from the
> finished binaries, or during binary build. The only way to do it is to
> run the actual binary and ask it to describe itself.
FWIW, I also think that GObject made a disastrous decision to avoid a
high-level IDL with a preprocessor-to-C tool to describe those things
(similar to what Qt does with Qt-specific extensions to C++); instead,
they force everyone to write GObject boilerplate directly in C, which is
absolutely horrible to read, write and maintain. Just try reading the
GObject developer's manual without getting a headache.
It's partly out of these frustrations that Vala was born, and Gnome made
the decision to switch to Javascript on top of gobject introspection.
Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-11 13:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-09 14:50 [PATCH 00/29] Add gobject introspection support to oe-core Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 01/29] qemu.bbclass: add qemu_wrapper_cmdline() Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 02/29] qemu: don't blacklist mips64 when building runners of userspace binaries Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 03/29] gobject-introspection: add the recipe Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 04/29] gtk-doc-stub: remove introspection stubs Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 05/29] gobject-introspection.bbclass: add a class that enables gobject introspection Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 06/29] python3-native: use the previous version of python-config script Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 07/29] avahi-ui: remove the dependency on python-pygtk by disabling avahi-discover Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 08/29] python-pygtk: remove the recipe Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-10 13:13 ` Jussi Kukkonen
2015-11-10 13:25 ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-10 14:18 ` Jussi Kukkonen
2015-11-10 14:31 ` Paul Eggleton
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 09/29] avahi: enable gobject-introspection Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 10/29] udev: enable gobject introspection Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 11/29] vala: enable the use of vapigen by packages with vala support Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 12/29] gcr: enable generation of vapi files using vapigen Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 13/29] gdk-pixbuf: enable gobject introspection Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 14/29] gconf: enable gobject-introspection Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 15/29] gtk+: enable gobject introspection Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 16/29] gtk+3: enable gobject-introspection Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 17/29] libsecret: enable generation of vapi files using vapigen Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 18/29] clutter: enable gobject introspection Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 19/29] vala.bbclass: remove pre-packaged vapigen.m4 from tarballs Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 20/29] libsoup-2.4: enable gobject introspection Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 21/29] at-spi2-core: " Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 22/29] gstreamer: " Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 23/29] gnomebase.bbclass: " Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 24/29] webkitgtk: " Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 25/29] gcr: disable gobject introspection on x86-64 for now Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 26/29] gcr: disable gobject-introspection on mips64 Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 27/29] libsecret: " Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 28/29] webkitgtk: disable gobject-introspection on powerpc Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-09 14:50 ` [PATCH 29/29] packagegroup-core-x11-sato: add python-pygobject and gtk+3 Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-10 14:31 ` [PATCH 00/29] Add gobject introspection support to oe-core Mark Hatle
2015-11-10 15:36 ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-10 16:39 ` Mark Hatle
2015-11-10 17:40 ` Burton, Ross
2015-11-10 18:25 ` Mark Hatle
2015-11-10 22:39 ` Richard Purdie
2015-11-10 23:10 ` Phil Blundell
2015-11-10 23:40 ` Burton, Ross
2015-11-11 0:15 ` Mark Hatle
2015-11-11 3:29 ` Khem Raj
2015-11-11 12:53 ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-11 13:14 ` Alexander Kanavin [this message]
2015-11-11 12:45 ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-11 13:34 ` Mark Hatle
2015-11-11 13:48 ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-11 13:50 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2015-11-11 13:55 ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-11 13:57 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2015-11-11 13:59 ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-11 13:58 ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-13 13:53 ` Mark Hatle
2015-11-13 16:12 ` alexander.kanavin
2015-11-13 16:31 ` Mark Hatle
2015-11-16 9:52 ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-16 16:12 ` Mark Hatle
2015-11-17 14:06 ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-11-17 15:02 ` Mark Hatle
2015-11-18 16:10 ` Alexander Kanavin
2016-01-19 16:03 ` Mark Hatle
2016-03-10 16:56 ` Martin Jansa
2016-03-10 16:56 ` Burton, Ross
2016-03-10 17:05 ` Martin Jansa
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2015-11-26 14:26 Alexander Kanavin
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