From: "Lopez, Mariano" <mariano.lopez@linux.intel.com>
To: Randy Witt <rewitt@declaratino.com>
Cc: yocto@yoctoproject.org,
openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org,
OE-core <openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: Reference updater filesystem
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 11:19:45 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56549C31.8010604@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP5N7XH-wVfyyCeBK7gdYXtoDLQuXPKkXV=CRNowmbPUGvxb8Q@mail.gmail.com>
On 11/24/2015 1:32 AM, Randy Witt wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Mariano Lopez
> <mariano.lopez@linux.intel.com <mailto:mariano.lopez@linux.intel.com>>
> wrote:
>
> There has been interest in an image based software updater in
> Yocto Project. The proposed solution for a image based updater is
> to use Stefano Babic's software updater
> (http://sbabic.github.io/swupdate). This software do a binary
> copy, so it is needed to have at least two partitions, these
> partitions would be the rootfs and the maintenance partition. The
> rootfs it's the main partition used to boot during the normal
> device operation, on the other hand, the maintenance will be used
> to update the main partition.
>
> To update the system, the user has to connect to device and boot
> in the maintenance partition; once in the maintenance partition
> the software updater will copy the new image in the rootfs
> partition. A final reboot into the rootfs it is necessary to
> complete the upgrade.
>
> As mentioned before the the software will copy an image to the
> partition, so everything in that partition will be wiped out,
> including custom configurations. To avoid the loss of
> configuration I explore three different solutions:
> 1. Use a separate partition for the configuration.
> a. The pro of this method is the partition is not touched during
> the update.
> b. The con of this method is the configuration is not directly
> in rootfs (example: /etc).
>
> Configuration files can be anywhere a package decides to install them.
> So having a single partition would be difficult. If you could, you
> would most likely be forced to have an initramfs to make sure /etc was
> mounted before init runs.
/etc was an example, the image should have the required files to make
the target boot and the get the application configuration from this
other partition. This is like openwrt does, it has a read-only rootfs
and small read-write partition where the user can write its
configuration and restore it at boot time.
> 2. Do the backup during the update.
> a. The pro is the configuration is directly in rootfs.
> b. The con is If the update fail most likely the configuration
> would be lost.
>
> Why would the configuration be lost if the update fails? Couldn't it
> just be stored on the thumbdrive?
If there is a power loss while the configuration is copied, the
partition could go corrupt and would be difficult to recover. And as you
mentioned before the configuration files could be anywhere, so the
script must be customized to get all those files and once the update is
complete another script must restore those files, these could be
cumbersome instead of the application have the config in another partition.
> 3. Have an OverlayFS for the rootfs or the partition that have the
> configuration.
> a. The pro is the configuration is "directly" in rootfs.
> b. The con is there is need to provide a custom init to
> guarantee the Overlay is mounted before the boot process.
>
> With the above information I'm proposing to use a separate
> partition for the configuration; this is because is more reliable
> and doesn't require big changes in the current architecture.
>
> So, the idea is to have 4 partitions in the media:
> 1. boot. This is the usual boot partition
> 2. data. This will hold the configuration files. Not modified by
> updates.
> 3. maintenance. This partition will be used to update rootfs.
> 4. rootfs. Partition used for normal operation.
>
> Mariano
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-24 17:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-23 21:41 RFC: Reference updater filesystem Mariano Lopez
2015-11-24 6:06 ` Anders Darander
2015-11-24 18:39 ` [yocto] " Lopez, Mariano
2015-11-24 7:32 ` Randy Witt
2015-11-24 17:19 ` Lopez, Mariano [this message]
2015-11-24 10:39 ` [oe] " Roman Khimov
2015-11-24 13:47 ` Mark Hatle
2015-11-24 17:02 ` [yocto] " Lopez, Mariano
2015-11-24 17:13 ` Mark Hatle
2015-11-24 18:05 ` Roman Khimov
2015-11-24 18:27 ` Mark Hatle
2015-11-24 18:47 ` Roman Khimov
2015-12-03 16:45 ` Mariano Lopez
2015-12-06 11:34 ` Jens Rehsack
[not found] ` <60350861.Ng52JMGuMb@bancha.hex>
2015-11-24 16:30 ` Lopez, Mariano
2015-11-24 18:10 ` Roman Khimov
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