From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mga02.intel.com (mga02.intel.com [134.134.136.20]) by mail.openembedded.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F1C60746; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 21:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from orsmga003.jf.intel.com ([10.7.209.27]) by orsmga101.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 27 Jul 2016 14:13:47 -0700 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.28,431,1464678000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="854796328" Received: from alimonb-mobl1.zpn.intel.com (HELO [10.219.5.54]) ([10.219.5.54]) by orsmga003.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 27 Jul 2016 14:13:48 -0700 To: Mark Hatle , Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer , OpenEmbedded Devel List References: <5798ECAD.1060109@linux.intel.com> <69a74e8b-5c4f-27d2-6563-0307f9c74dae@windriver.com> From: =?UTF-8?B?QW7DrWJhbCBMaW3Ds24=?= Message-ID: <57992432.4000200@linux.intel.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:14:26 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <69a74e8b-5c4f-27d2-6563-0307f9c74dae@windriver.com> Subject: Re: Busybox drop systemd support X-BeenThere: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 21:13:47 -0000 X-Groupsio-MsgNum: 85020 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Quh9qLwBJ1dBAp5pmv2bxG5mE9jL7eTSl" --Quh9qLwBJ1dBAp5pmv2bxG5mE9jL7eTSl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/27/2016 12:58 PM, Mark Hatle wrote: > On 7/27/16 12:17 PM, An=EDbal Lim=F3n wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I was working debugging an issue for missing /var/log/messages in >> systemd/busybox images [1] and then i found that busybox drop support >> for systemd from 1.25 version [2]. >> >> This ends in a set of questions of what we need to do in systemd/busyb= ox >> images since the next version of busybox will not support systemd, >> >> I have a couple of ideas, >> >> - Remove the support of busybox in systemd images?, this is the hard >> one, we need an sw alternative here may be toybox... >> - Maintain the systemd support in busybox?, the patch [2] is small atm= >> but in the future may be this will cause problems for maintain it. >=20 > I know we've had customers who want a 'busybox free' system. In YP 2.0= there > were still a few items provided by busybox, so just disabling it (black= list) > wasn't easy. >=20 > This sounds like a good opportunity to make sure that you can make a sy= stem that > works with and without busybox. >=20 I agree, currently we have the option to use core-image-{full-cmdline, lsb} that don't come with busybox but comes with standard linux utilities may me not targeted for embedded systems. Will be good if we could provide support for toybox or another busybox like implementation of shell, tools. > With that said, looking at [2] below. I don't see that busybox ever re= ally > supported or not systemd (contrary to what it says.) The support was very basic for enable busybox-syslog start/stop with systemd. >=20 > It just means if systemd is selected, and the user is using busybox -- = you > should not use syslogd out of busybox. I think this is a reasonable re= quirement > -- and something that should be fairly easy to implement. (With system= d, I'm > not sure why you would want to use the busybox syslogd anyway.. it's to= o limited > IMHO.) Yes that's an option to mantain to get rid of busybox-syslog and only use systemd journald. >=20 > --Mark >=20 >> Best regards, >> alimon >> >> [1] >> http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=3Dali= mon/debug_times2&id=3Daa143dbe3cb233ee50944ebb62c541c823179a04 >> [2] >> https://git.busybox.net/busybox/commit/?id=3Daccd9eeb719916da974584b33= b1aeced5f3bb346 >> >> >> >=20 --Quh9qLwBJ1dBAp5pmv2bxG5mE9jL7eTSl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJXmSQ1AAoJEGJqcE9h3glgGm8P/1+yhawFxZCAe/rxuv2Pjcog GzQ+jJ4hWipcGEZk2Ci8MEbfZoOHJi7RUKGQxAd3Rf4gGQG2qwiWph/MW044NlBm 3sbjaEm0qpWNsqUZXzOZZWF78uY8PEUhIkzXH/TN8t8l5HSiCoJGqdOiCfW3byGV 4eg/KIgVzrLmknEFiYufVfMdBp/T1ghQPvRj82/kXpRYIRBANf+uW1V5oncAyhsd PtqxPOKYX/Vp6B/He4odSMWRRG7KhdTDGgkqtiazmnKYRbxU0rrDILzjKn4NJF7c NfYwH7BeS+junjhShmGURUwehf2gWyYOlJssKGS1Yt25qWYNFMYLL8IGeq0ZW16/ EMlpP8csoGXv0GEOfzexFJBgU0Rik/27+ZmO9U8hDUfna/BHqqaqwlJUnaDvLSRb 9TySjWdNVwgkbp3OWxEEUyokFB1ntSlMsF15N4uwVP0J8zEZboKdxNrSB5NOozUM BTpZmHjnUSRbfqLs7LiP9VjaCVKzgDP8Q0MQlVy/q2iJGpLm52uDBLBSiZqe6n5T hnJdAt4hB+Fi1EVir7HwdFBPApPC70AWX1SMZqzzqzuFOYGlCm/RoreUGfRx58OS prjbFq2MivVhMOO4xOub4cgyKWfwnXaCk9Pl+UZpDVQS53NZs3Q36IWKI5ZeWTOH ilgSdtQ/wPH89c9y8lJi =U5BF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Quh9qLwBJ1dBAp5pmv2bxG5mE9jL7eTSl--