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([2001:8b0:aba:5f3c:bb2e:ed0:9938:b670]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5b1f17b1804b1-4835dfb4bd4sm157722075e9.7.2026.02.12.15.00.30 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 12 Feb 2026 15:00:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7b1f6dbbe4f5d46525b46d2099a9c4e5320df069.camel@linuxfoundation.org> Subject: Re: [oe-core][PATCHv15 1/6] emptty: add version 0.15.0 From: Richard Purdie To: Randolph Sapp , Mathieu Dubois-Briand , alex@linutronix.de, otavio@ossystems.com.br, kexin.hao@windriver.com Cc: afd@ti.com, detheridge@ti.com, denis@denix.org, reatmon@ti.com, openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org, vijayp@ti.com Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2026 23:00:29 +0000 In-Reply-To: References: <20260203012028.4008229-1-rs@ti.com> <20260203012028.4008229-2-rs@ti.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.56.0-1ubuntu0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 List-Id: X-Webhook-Received: from 45-33-107-173.ip.linodeusercontent.com [45.33.107.173] by aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org with HTTPS for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2026 23:00:37 -0000 X-Groupsio-URL: https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/231075 On Thu, 2026-02-12 at 16:52 -0600, Randolph Sapp wrote: > On Thu Feb 12, 2026 at 10:45 AM CST, Mathieu Dubois-Briand wrote: > > On Tue Feb 3, 2026 at 2:20 AM CET, Randolph Sapp via lists.openembedded= .org wrote: > > > From: Randolph Sapp > > >=20 > > > Add emptty, a "Dead simple CLI Display Manager on TTY". This is a > > > relatively lightweight display manager that supports x11 as well as > > > wayland through both a CLI and an automatic login mechanism. > > >=20 > > > This can effectively replace the custom init scripts for both x11 > > > (xserver-nodm-init) and wayland (weston-init) with a single tool with > > > more verbose logging capabilities. > > >=20 > > > This is split into two recipes. The emptty package provides the binar= y > > > and various agnostic configs while the emptty-conf package provides t= he > > > default configuration for the application itself. This RPROVIDES > > > virtual-emptty-conf, allowing other recipes to provide their own > > > configurations to override the default behavior. > > >=20 > > > Signed-off-by: Randolph Sapp > > > --- > >=20 > > Hi Randolph, > >=20 > > This patch has been in my branch for a week now, but we are seeing some > > intermittent reproducibility issues. > >=20 > > I opened a bugzilla entry by error, as for a second I thought this patc= h > > was merged, so details can be found here: > > https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D16171 > >=20 > > Diffoscope output is here: > > https://valkyrie.yocto.io/pub/repro-fail/oe-reproducible-20260212-ssslv= z6_/packages/diff-html/ > >=20 > > Can you have a look at what is going wrong please? > >=20 > > Thanks, > > Mathieu >=20 > Hey Mathieu, I'm at a serious loss here. The only differences I see are f= ile > creation dates and intermediary archive sizes (normally only a difference= of 2-4 > blocks), which I assume are being changed by the creation dates as there = are no > content diffs reported. I don't have direct control over either of these > components. >=20 > I agree that this is an issue, but I have no idea what is expected from m= e here. > I see some weird workarounds using touch in xorg-minimal-fonts and e2fspr= ogs, > but from what I understand that should not be required. >=20 > Shouldn't all packages get hit with the same SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH enforcemen= t? One > of those packages is literally just a single text file that is installed = with: >=20 > install -DZ res/conf -m 644 -T ${DESTDIR}/etc/${DISTFILE}/conf >=20 > On top of that, a local "oe-selftest -r reproducible" doesn't seem capabl= e of > reproducing it. Are there any other logs you can share? Those dates are probably controlled by SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH for the recipe. That is probably not stable for some reason in all builds. Why, I'm not sure but I thought I'd at least point where to look. We pull SDE from different places depending on the type of sources and so on. Cheers, Richard