From: Paul Eggleton <paul.eggleton@linux.intel.com>
To: Andrei Gherzan <andrei@gherzan.ro>
Cc: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>,
openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org,
openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: [oe] Piglit in Poky
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 13:26:05 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8077054.ZVN9KvzOmn@helios> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140103112512.GA30264@gmail.com>
On Friday 03 January 2014 13:25:13 Andrei Gherzan wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 04:44:52PM +0100, Koen Kooi wrote:
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> > Philip Balister schreef op 28-12-13 23:33:
> > > On 12/28/2013 10:28 AM, Koen Kooi wrote:
> > >> Paul Eggleton schreef op 28-12-13 12:48:
> > >>> Hi Koen,
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tuesday 24 December 2013 15:22:32 Koen Kooi wrote:
> > >>>> Burton, Ross schreef op 23-12-13 19:01:
> > >>>>> We'd like to integrate Piglit (an OpenGL test suite) into Poky
> > >>>>> so that we can run automated QA on the GL stack. Piglit is
> > >>>>> currently residing in meta-oe, but as Poky is a self-contained
> > >>>>> project we can't just add meta-oe to it: apart from the size of
> > >>>>> meta-oe, we can't ensure stability if meta-oe makes incompatible
> > >>>>> changes that affect Poky.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Piglit isn't a stand-alone package, there are the dependencies
> > >>>>> of waffle, python-mako and python-numpy to consider too. There
> > >>>>> are two possibilities I can see:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 1) Move piglit and deps to oe-core. Piglit is for QA purposes
> > >>>>> only and pushes the boundaries of "core platform". In a sense
> > >>>>> this is a repeat of the discussion we had with Midori... does
> > >>>>> oe-core contain everything needed to sufficiently exercise the
> > >>>>> core components it ships or not?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 2) Add piglit and deps to meta-yocto. Probably a new layer
> > >>>>> called meta-yocto-qa (or similar) because the Yocto Compatible
> > >>>>> guidelines forbid mixing distribution policy and recipes.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Speaking of layers, can you *please* rename meta-yocto to
> > >>>> meta-poky? It's what it's actually is and would remove a lot of
> > >>>> confusion when trying to explain that yocto is not a distro, even
> > >>>> if the distro layer is called 'meta-yocto'.
> > >>>
> > >>> This is a tangent, but a couple of points:
> > >>>
> > >>> 1) This rename would not come for free. We'd need to update people's
> > >>> existing bblayers.conf files on the fly, as we did when
> > >>> meta-yocto-bsp was split out of meta-yocto, and thus bump
> > >>> LCONF_VERSION; however, doing this only in poky has resulted in
> > >>> annoying problems when users remove poky from their configurations
> > >>> (since LCONF_VERSION is out-of-step between Poky and OE-Core, leading
> > >>> to confusing errors in this situation). Thus I think we'd want to
> > >>> solve this once and for all by bumping the value in OE-Core as well
> > >>> as Poky.
> > >>>
> > >>> 2) If you propose this rename, perhaps you will also consider
> > >>> renaming meta-oe, since that name within a similarly named
> > >>> meta-openembedded repository leads to a similar level of
> > >>> confusion...?
> > >>
> > >> I have no problems with renaming that layer since I get confused by
> > >> this a few times a week myself :)
> > >
> > > What would we we rename it to?
> >
> > I'm very tempted to suggest 'meta-yocto'
>
> I definitely find meta-yocto a better option here. It would save me from
> some confusion when talking about yocto to other people.
I'm not following; meta-yocto is already called meta-yocto ... ? Maybe you
didn't realise Koen was joking...
> Related to meta-oe, even if that would be a smaller problem, I think
> meta-openembedded is a better name for that layer too.
That doesn't solve the problem I was talking about, namely that there's little
distinction between meta-openembedded the repository (that contains a number
of layers) and meta-oe which is one of those layers. These are two different
things and the similar naming makes it hard to always know which one people
are talking about.
Cheers,
Paul
--
Paul Eggleton
Intel Open Source Technology Centre
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-03 13:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-23 18:01 Piglit in Poky Burton, Ross
2013-12-24 1:09 ` Philip Balister
2013-12-24 10:50 ` [oe] " Martin Jansa
2014-01-06 11:22 ` Paul Eggleton
2013-12-28 11:41 ` Paul Eggleton
2014-01-08 16:09 ` Burton, Ross
2014-01-08 16:27 ` [poky] " Martin Jansa
2014-01-08 17:01 ` Richard Purdie
2014-01-08 17:14 ` Nicolas Dechesne
2014-01-08 18:44 ` Philip Balister
2014-01-08 19:46 ` Burton, Ross
2014-01-08 21:14 ` [oe] " Otavio Salvador
2013-12-24 14:22 ` Koen Kooi
2013-12-28 11:48 ` Paul Eggleton
2013-12-28 15:28 ` Koen Kooi
2013-12-28 22:33 ` Philip Balister
2013-12-29 15:44 ` Koen Kooi
2014-01-03 11:25 ` Andrei Gherzan
2014-01-03 13:26 ` Paul Eggleton [this message]
2014-01-03 13:37 ` [oe] " Martin Jansa
2014-01-03 13:50 ` Paul Eggleton
2014-01-03 15:06 ` Andrei Gherzan
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