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From: Randolph Sapp <rs@ti.com>
To: <rs@ti.com>, Alexander Kanavin <alex.kanavin@gmail.com>
Cc: Mathieu Dubois-Briand <mathieu.dubois-briand@bootlin.com>,
	<richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>, <ross.burton@arm.com>,
	<alex@linutronix.de>, <otavio@ossystems.com.br>,
	<kexin.hao@windriver.com>, <afd@ti.com>, <detheridge@ti.com>,
	<denis@denix.org>, <reatmon@ti.com>,
	<openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>, <vijayp@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [oe-core][PATCHv2 0/3] Display manager proposal for x11 and wayland
Date: Thu, 8 May 2025 15:39:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D9R2IAEKL6IZ.37PWD38041XCA@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <183D59758C0F13FA.9842@lists.openembedded.org>

On Wed May 7, 2025 at 3:42 PM CDT, Randolph Sapp via lists.openembedded.org wrote:
> On Wed May 7, 2025 at 8:37 AM CDT, Alexander Kanavin wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 May 2025 at 01:03, Randolph Sapp via lists.openembedded.org
>> <rs=ti.com@lists.openembedded.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Ah, this is the first I hearing about the gnux32 triplet. Well, that is being
>>> filtered out by COMPATIBLE_HOST in the goarch bbclass. Some of those values seem
>>> to be invalid now (powerpc64 is supported upstream). That being said, I don't
>>> see any mention of the new x32 ABI upstream. Not entirely sure how to address
>>> that at the moment.
>>
>> There are two options:
>>
>> - set up the x32 build as specified in [1], replicate the fail, tweak
>> COMPATIBLE_HOST as needed (in a separate commit) and see if any
>> further issues come up.
>>
>> - correct [1] to no longer build core-image-sato for x32, and replace
>> it with core-image-full-cmdline, reducing x32 to non-graphical
>> targets. It's been a controversial target for a long time, as no one
>> has ever seen actual usage of it, and there's been a stream of
>> graphical related crashes and build failures. We keep it around for
>> now, but I'd fully support dropping the graphics and leaving only the
>> console images.
>>
>> [1] https://git.yoctoproject.org/yocto-autobuilder-helper/tree/config.json#n867
>>
>> Alex
>
> Alright, well I did a little work poking around go. It has no understanding of
> the x32 ABI currently. Dropping the x32 tests from core-image-sato to
> core-image-full-cmdline can work, but that does mask a bit of a regression.
>
> As useful as a display manager will be, I'm not sure I can justify that much of
> a regression for an entire ABI. I know the linux kernel has debated about
> dropping x32 support a number of times, GCC seems to be the only compiler that
> has fully implemented it, and Yocto is one of 3 listed distro solutions that
> currently support it. Still feels a little rough. I don't know.
>
> Anyone got any strong opinions here?

Well, I guess we'll go with a old fashioned scream test. Let me know if there
are any other issues that need to be addressed or if I need to resubmit this
series if the following is accepted.

https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/yocto-patches/message/1539


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-05-08 20:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-05 22:47 [oe-core][PATCHv2 0/3] Display manager proposal for x11 and wayland rs
2025-05-05 22:47 ` [oe-core][PATCHv2 1/3] emptty: add version 0.14.0 rs
2025-05-05 22:48 ` [oe-core][PATCHv2 2/3] weston-init: convert to virtual-emptty-conf rs
2025-05-05 22:48 ` [oe-core][PATCHv2 3/3] xserver-nodm-init: " rs
2025-05-06  7:47 ` [oe-core][PATCHv2 0/3] Display manager proposal for x11 and wayland Mathieu Dubois-Briand
2025-05-06 23:03   ` Randolph Sapp
2025-05-07 13:37     ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-05-07 20:42       ` Randolph Sapp
     [not found]       ` <183D59758C0F13FA.9842@lists.openembedded.org>
2025-05-08 20:39         ` Randolph Sapp [this message]
2025-05-09  8:27           ` Richard Purdie
2025-05-13  6:15 ` Mathieu Dubois-Briand

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