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Thu, 12 Feb 2026 22:52:57 -0000 X-Groupsio-URL: https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/231074 On Thu Feb 12, 2026 at 10:45 AM CST, Mathieu Dubois-Briand wrote: > On Tue Feb 3, 2026 at 2:20 AM CET, Randolph Sapp via lists.openembedded.o= rg wrote: >> From: Randolph Sapp >> >> Add emptty, a "Dead simple CLI Display Manager on TTY". This is a >> relatively lightweight display manager that supports x11 as well as >> wayland through both a CLI and an automatic login mechanism. >> >> This can effectively replace the custom init scripts for both x11 >> (xserver-nodm-init) and wayland (weston-init) with a single tool with >> more verbose logging capabilities. >> >> This is split into two recipes. The emptty package provides the binary >> and various agnostic configs while the emptty-conf package provides the >> default configuration for the application itself. This RPROVIDES >> virtual-emptty-conf, allowing other recipes to provide their own >> configurations to override the default behavior. >> >> Signed-off-by: Randolph Sapp >> --- > > Hi Randolph, > > This patch has been in my branch for a week now, but we are seeing some > intermittent reproducibility issues. > > I opened a bugzilla entry by error, as for a second I thought this patch > was merged, so details can be found here: > https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D16171 > > Diffoscope output is here: > https://valkyrie.yocto.io/pub/repro-fail/oe-reproducible-20260212-ssslvz6= _/packages/diff-html/ > > Can you have a look at what is going wrong please? > > Thanks, > Mathieu Hey Mathieu, I'm at a serious loss here. The only differences I see are fil= e creation dates and intermediary archive sizes (normally only a difference o= f 2-4 blocks), which I assume are being changed by the creation dates as there ar= e no content diffs reported. I don't have direct control over either of these components. I agree that this is an issue, but I have no idea what is expected from me = here. I see some weird workarounds using touch in xorg-minimal-fonts and e2fsprog= s, but from what I understand that should not be required. Shouldn't all packages get hit with the same SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH enforcement?= One of those packages is literally just a single text file that is installed wi= th: install -DZ res/conf -m 644 -T ${DESTDIR}/etc/${DISTFILE}/conf On top of that, a local "oe-selftest -r reproducible" doesn't seem capable = of reproducing it. Are there any other logs you can share? - Randolph