From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com ([209.85.212.172]) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U9ZDG-0001La-Ru for openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:53:48 +0100 Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id ez12so2370084wid.17 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 02:37:30 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-gm-message-state; bh=Y7sbTg7P9CSx+k0mBVzHC2+bdQApNhOCSHKbugKa7uM=; b=Q/fUTYqlKIaMMlpsV4U9rvldUcKjsd1L3QTqJ++yrTiAqgLhoDT+WsRMj3dfUrKCSb BfakEBv8ESsc5B+1UbAeKCy5uEG6Y3Uz4tpGMnKs+sAZWdezML3vbyy3gahyUc/NeOmi e01R/e+EQtqgt6jfEnMMYgc3MtUaNUVjU8LTviZWiG18Dssc8hHPKJcvwJ/ooGYVObIx T49bxaMcSJUcenk5NdzLfuV9UL9DC4aPHVj2xOFIufNxVP7BoaEmnaEGxpPw9aohqWbD Bnvf2b7T3AVM5sojvQOVwBWrRQDo9pnc6JClVyn666/mxDqnAPovuJ/1/9Cjtn2K17UF sv0A== X-Received: by 10.180.76.84 with SMTP id i20mr6224587wiw.9.1361702250446; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 02:37:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa. [81.2.106.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id du2sm8181299wib.0.2013.02.24.02.37.28 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Feb 2013 02:37:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:37:26 +0000 From: Ross Burton To: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: sparrow 1.6.4 (build 1178) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmcbmvXTWjyf6txmeL9FsZN8d5UB/bXHVlQNKr7z0OzMcAklkrSklZSt9J+IqAofDOP4sSH Subject: Re: RFE: make the init manager an image feature (again) X-BeenThere: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:54:23 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi, Just brainstorming out loud, but here's a suggestion that might just plea= se everyone: A virtual provider for the init manager, which can be overridden per-imag= e (for main / rescue images). DISTRO=5F=46EATURES contains the init script *style* that you want: sysvi= nit or systemd. These are not mutually exclusive so specifying both will= get you both directly in packages that support both. I'm still not conv= inced we need to split these out into separate packages, the size impact = is practically negligible and the dependencies are effectively redundant = as you'll have trouble booting without an init system. Instead the posti= nsts should wrap the initscript fragments in checks. Those distro features will also be used to enable/disable features in the= source, so enabling systemd may well lead to libsystemd-* libraries snea= king into your rescue image. The systemd libraries will have to be revie= wed to verify that installing one of them doesn't pull in systemd itself.= Here's the fun bit - we can't have two builds of udev in the same distro,= and that's what could happen, so I think we'll need to cut down to one u= dev instead of two. I'm not entirely convinced this is a good plan yet myself though=E2=80=A6= Ross