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From: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>
To: Alexander Kanavin <alex.kanavin@gmail.com>
Cc: openembedded-architecture
	<openembedded-architecture@lists.openembedded.org>,
	Yocto-mailing-list <yocto@lists.yoctoproject.org>,
	OE-core <openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>
Subject: Re: [yocto] Y2038 proposal
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 12:02:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y4c4UBryAjx5t2gl@mail.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANNYZj8Y37+s6Jzo1XvX0uCYNFc=NqOH8PWrFSL9_=TOS2ja7Q@mail.gmail.com>

On 30/11/2022 09:07:50+0100, Alexander Kanavin wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 16:45, Stephen Jolley <sjolley.yp.pm@gmail.com> wrote:
> > We’d welcome a proposal/series on how to move forward with the Y2038 work for 32 bit platforms.
> 
> I have the following proposal:
> 
> 1. A branch is made where:
> a. "-D_TIME_BITS=64 -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64" is enabled globally.
> b. qemu is always started with "-rtc base=2040-01-01", simulating
> Y2038 actually occurring.
> c. an additional runtime test verifies that both RTC clock and system
> clock report 2040.
> 
> 2. This branch is run through a-full on the autobuilder. Any uncovered
> issues are filed as bugs.
> 

I ran a-full with "-D_TIME_BITS=64 -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64" last week, it
didn't go too well gcc-sanitizer and pulseaudio being the main offenders
but buildtools needs to be investigated.


> 3. Once *all* of the bugs are addressed, repeat point 2.
> 
> 4. Once there are no more open bugs, 1a is merged into master.
> 
> Any fatal flaws in the plan?
> 
> It's not hard to see that Y2038 problem is real and serious, e.g. on
> qemux86 core-image-full-cmdline built from master:
> 
> root@qemux86:~# ls /
> bin  boot  dev    etc  home  lib    lost+found  media  mnt    proc
> run  sbin  sys  tmp  usr    var
> root@qemux86:~# date -s "2040-01-01"
> Sun Jan  1 00:00:00 UTC 2040
> root@qemux86:~# ls /
> bin  boot  dev    etc  home  lib    lost+found  media  mnt    proc
> run  sbin  sys  tmp  usr    var
> root@qemux86:~# ls /
> -sh: ls: command not found
> 
> On qemux86_64 the same sequence works as expected, of course.
> 

The main issue with the plan is that we are not running tests on 32
qemu anymore.


-- 
Alexandre Belloni, co-owner and COO, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-30 11:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-29 15:44 Yocto Project Status 29 November 2022 (WW48) sjolley.yp.pm
2022-11-30  8:07 ` Y2038 proposal Alexander Kanavin
2022-11-30  8:28   ` [yocto] " Lukasz Majewski
2022-11-30  9:07     ` Alexander Kanavin
2022-11-30  9:40       ` Lukasz Majewski
2022-11-30  9:48         ` Alexander Kanavin
2022-11-30 21:14     ` Alexander Kanavin
2022-12-01  8:28       ` Lukasz Majewski
2022-11-30 11:02   ` Alexandre Belloni [this message]
2022-11-30 11:40     ` [OE-core] " Richard Purdie
2022-11-30 12:07       ` Alexander Kanavin
2022-11-30 12:09         ` Lukasz Majewski
2022-11-30 12:11         ` Richard Purdie
2022-11-30 13:15   ` [Openembedded-architecture] " Richard Purdie
2022-11-30 13:36     ` [OE-core] " Lukasz Majewski
2022-11-30 14:20       ` Richard Purdie
2022-11-30 16:46         ` [yocto] " Ross Burton
2022-11-30 16:56           ` Alexandre Belloni
2022-11-30 16:59             ` Richard Purdie
2022-12-05 10:00               ` Ola x Nilsson
2022-12-05 11:04                 ` Richard Purdie
2022-12-05 11:05                   ` Ola x Nilsson
2022-12-01 10:27     ` Alexander Kanavin
2022-12-01 10:36       ` Richard Purdie
2022-11-30 16:38   ` Khem Raj
2022-12-02  8:54   ` [OE-core] " Matt Johnston
2022-12-05 23:24     ` Richard Purdie

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