From: Mikko Rapeli <mikko.rapeli@linaro.org>
To: Bruce Ashfield <bruce.ashfield@gmail.com>
Cc: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: [OE-core] [PATCH v2 03/11] kernel.bbclass: add kernel-initrd-modules meta package
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 10:29:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-UMgOrrXLIQH0IA@nuoska> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z91+5mpCocPjYM+F@gmail.com>
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 10:59:50AM -0400, Bruce Ashfield wrote:
> I was going to reply to v1, but v2 came out before I got to it!
>
> In message: [OE-core] [PATCH v2 03/11] kernel.bbclass: add kernel-initrd-modules meta package
> on 21/03/2025 Mikko Rapeli via lists.openembedded.org wrote:
>
> > At the moment linux-yocto kernels for various architectures
> > are not very modular and a lot of drivers are built into the kernel
> > even when they are not needed at runtime. These make the main kernel
> > binary big and slow to boot. This also impacts udev in userspace
> > which takes a long time processing events from all these built in drivers,
> > for example when udev runs in initrd.
> >
> > Then constructing the initrd is very device and kernel configuration specific.
> > initrd image needs explicitly define which binary packages to install
> > to avoid pulling in complex dependencies. A full set of kernel modules
> > via kernel-modules meta package is too big for initrd and most of the
> > drivers are not needed for use cases like "just load modules to mount
> > main rootfs". Then the initrd configuration breaks if kernel driver
> > is built into the kernel since the binary package doesn't exist.
> >
> > Introduce kernel-initrd-modules meta package to solve these problems.
> > The meta package adds dependencies to real kernel modules based on
> > the kernel module file paths so that it will include several
> > kernel subsystems and their drivers which are often needed to find
> > main rootfs from some block device. This works when drivers are built
> > as modules but does not break if drivers are built into the kernel.
>
> The list of paths gives me the nagging feeling that there's
> a better way. With the paths, it is just something else to
> maintain and has to work against an undefined set of kernel and
> kernel versions (not that major directories in the kernel change,
> so I don't think it is a big issue).
>
> There won't be a way to do this generically, but I'd prefer that
> this was driven from the kernel recipes down to the packaging,
> instead of the packaging (the classes) coming along after and
> trying to serve the needs of those undefined sets of recipes and
> configurations.
>
> The simplest would be to have the kernel recipes provide that
> regex. That way the coupling of directories to the kernel
> version and provider is explicit. Sure, that means the regex
> is in recipes (and possibly repeated), but individual layers
> and kernel providers can figure out how to minimize that
> themselvs (.inc or whatever), so it is a solvable problem.
What about BSP kernels which don't use linux-yocto but do use
the kernel bbclasses?
I think they should be made compatible with initrd recipes
and thus the classes should generate this meta package and also
initialize the regex and other variables with some simple defaults.
This could make it easier to boot upstream initrd and images with
vendor kernels and configurations.
Cheers,
-Mikko
> The other way that I was thinking was an annotation in the
> module meta-data that could do the same thing. i.e. it could
> tag a configuration option's purpose and then use that to
> generate the list of modules (versus the directories), but
> again, that would just go in the recipe versus the base classes
> and would allow different providers to have different ways
> of specifying what is for the initrd.
>
> I honestly wouldn't provide a default in the bbclass as we
> just have no way to test it for all the different kernels
> and kernel providers in the ecosystem. Make the opt-in
> explicit by requiring it in the kernel recipe to start
> building the meta-package.
>
> >
> > The resulting initrd is also smaller since only a subset of drivers
> > are needed for "mount the rootfs" usecase. Tested on genericarm64
> > kernel and qemu and AMD KV260 HW.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Mikko Rapeli <mikko.rapeli@linaro.org>
> > ---
> > .../kernel-module-split.bbclass | 46 +++++++++++++++++++
> > meta/classes-recipe/kernel.bbclass | 5 +-
> > meta/classes-recipe/module.bbclass | 37 +++++++++++++++
> > 3 files changed, 87 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/meta/classes-recipe/kernel-module-split.bbclass b/meta/classes-recipe/kernel-module-split.bbclass
> > index 9487365eb7..06e8fbed6e 100644
> > --- a/meta/classes-recipe/kernel-module-split.bbclass
> > +++ b/meta/classes-recipe/kernel-module-split.bbclass
> > @@ -42,6 +42,40 @@ KERNEL_MODULE_PACKAGE_PREFIX ?= ""
> > KERNEL_MODULE_PACKAGE_SUFFIX ?= "-${KERNEL_VERSION}"
> > KERNEL_MODULE_PROVIDE_VIRTUAL ?= "1"
> >
> > +# subset of kernel modules needed in initrd, to e.g. mount rootfs from block device
> > +KERNEL_INITRD_MODULES_META_PACKAGE ?= "${@ d.getVar("KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME") or "kernel" }-initrd-modules"
> > +
> > +# match regex to path or file name. E.g. include all drivers with files in path /drivers/ata/
> > +KERNEL_INITRD_MODULES_REGEX ?= "(.*)(\
> > +/drivers/acpi/|\
> > +/drivers/ata/|\
> > +/drivers/block/|\
> > +/drivers/cdrom/|\
> > +/drivers/char/hw_random/|\
> > +/drivers/char/tpm/|\
> > +/drivers/char/|\
> > +/drivers/crypto/|\
> > +/drivers/dax/|\
> > +/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/|\
> > +/drivers/gpu/drm/|\
> > +/drivers/md/|\
> > +/drivers/mmc/|\
> > +/drivers/mtd/|\
> > +/drivers/nvdimm/|\
> > +/drivers/nvme/|\
> > +/drivers/pci/|\
> > +/drivers/scsi/|\
> > +/drivers/tee/|\
> > +/drivers/tty/serial/|\
> > +/drivers/virtio/|\
> > +/drivers/watchdog/|\
> > +/kernel/arch/|\
> > +/kernel/block/|\
> > +/kernel/crypto/|\
> > +/kernel/fs/|\
> > +/kernel/lib/\
> > +)(.*)"
> > +
>
> Is that the same regex in both files ? We probably should unify them or
> maintainence will be harder, which is why I'm suggesting that this
> should come from the recipes, not the bbclass itself.
>
> > python split_kernel_module_packages () {
> > import re
> >
> > @@ -183,6 +217,18 @@ python split_kernel_module_packages () {
> > modules = do_split_packages(d, root='${nonarch_base_libdir}/modules', file_regex=module_regex, output_pattern=module_pattern, description='%s kernel module', postinst=postinst, postrm=postrm, recursive=True, hook=frob_metadata, extra_depends='%s-%s' % (kernel_package_name, kernel_version))
> > if modules:
> > d.appendVar('RDEPENDS:' + metapkg, ' '+' '.join(modules))
> > +
> > + initrd_metapkg = d.getVar('KERNEL_INITRD_MODULES_META_PACKAGE')
> > + initrd_module_regex = re.compile(d.getVar('KERNEL_INITRD_MODULES_REGEX'))
> > + initrd_modules = []
> > + for module in modules:
> > + files = d.getVar('FILES:' + module)
> > + m = re.match(initrd_module_regex, files)
> > + if m:
> > + initrd_modules.append(module)
> > +
> > + if initrd_modules:
> > + d.appendVar('RDEPENDS:' + initrd_metapkg, ' '+' '.join(initrd_modules))
>
> I'd suggest that we could also have a flag to completely skip the
> processing. It isn't a particularly expensive set of operations, but
> we tend to not do processing for boot modes that won't be used.
>
> If it was driven top-down from a kernel recipe like I mentioned
> above, just testing if the KERNEL_INITRD_MODULES_REGEX was defined
> might be a good flag for the job.
>
> Bruce
>
> > }
> >
> > do_package[vardeps] += '${@" ".join(map(lambda s: "module_conf_" + s, (d.getVar("KERNEL_MODULE_PROBECONF") or "").split()))}'
> > diff --git a/meta/classes-recipe/kernel.bbclass b/meta/classes-recipe/kernel.bbclass
> > index 64a685a964..8fda61574d 100644
> > --- a/meta/classes-recipe/kernel.bbclass
> > +++ b/meta/classes-recipe/kernel.bbclass
> > @@ -695,13 +695,14 @@ EXPORT_FUNCTIONS do_compile do_transform_kernel do_transform_bundled_initramfs d
> >
> > # kernel-base becomes kernel-${KERNEL_VERSION}
> > # kernel-image becomes kernel-image-${KERNEL_VERSION}
> > -PACKAGES = "${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME} ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-base ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-vmlinux ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-image ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-dev ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-modules ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-dbg"
> > +PACKAGES = "${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME} ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-base ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-vmlinux ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-image ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-dev ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-modules ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-initrd-modules ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-dbg"
> > FILES:${PN} = ""
> > FILES:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-base = "${nonarch_base_libdir}/modules/${KERNEL_VERSION}/modules.order ${nonarch_base_libdir}/modules/${KERNEL_VERSION}/modules.builtin ${nonarch_base_libdir}/modules/${KERNEL_VERSION}/modules.builtin.modinfo"
> > FILES:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-image = ""
> > FILES:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-dev = "/${KERNEL_IMAGEDEST}/System.map* /${KERNEL_IMAGEDEST}/Module.symvers* /${KERNEL_IMAGEDEST}/config* ${KERNEL_SRC_PATH} ${nonarch_base_libdir}/modules/${KERNEL_VERSION}/build"
> > FILES:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-vmlinux = "/${KERNEL_IMAGEDEST}/vmlinux-${KERNEL_VERSION_NAME}"
> > FILES:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-modules = ""
> > +FILES:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-initrd-modules = ""
> > FILES:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-dbg = "/usr/lib/debug /usr/src/debug"
> > RDEPENDS:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME} = "${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-base (= ${EXTENDPKGV})"
> > # Allow machines to override this dependency if kernel image files are
> > @@ -716,7 +717,9 @@ ALLOW_EMPTY:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME} = "1"
> > ALLOW_EMPTY:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-base = "1"
> > ALLOW_EMPTY:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-image = "1"
> > ALLOW_EMPTY:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-modules = "1"
> > +ALLOW_EMPTY:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-initrd-modules = "1"
> > DESCRIPTION:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-modules = "Kernel modules meta package"
> > +DESCRIPTION:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-initrd-modules = "Kernel initrd modules meta package"
> >
> > pkg_postinst:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-base () {
> > if [ ! -e "$D/lib/modules/${KERNEL_VERSION}" ]; then
> > diff --git a/meta/classes-recipe/module.bbclass b/meta/classes-recipe/module.bbclass
> > index f2f0b25a2d..51f864f1f9 100644
> > --- a/meta/classes-recipe/module.bbclass
> > +++ b/meta/classes-recipe/module.bbclass
> > @@ -86,3 +86,40 @@ EXPORT_FUNCTIONS do_compile do_install
> > KERNEL_MODULES_META_PACKAGE = "${PN}"
> > FILES:${PN} = ""
> > ALLOW_EMPTY:${PN} = "1"
> > +
> > +# subset of kernel modules needed in initrd, to e.g. mount rootfs from block device
> > +KERNEL_INITRD_MODULES_META_PACKAGE ?= "${@ d.getVar("KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME") or "kernel" }-initrd-modules"
> > +
> > +# match regex to path or file name. E.g. include all drivers with files in path /drivers/ata/
> > +KERNEL_INITRD_MODULES_REGEX ?= "(.*)(\
> > +/drivers/acpi/|\
> > +/drivers/ata/|\
> > +/drivers/block/|\
> > +/drivers/cdrom/|\
> > +/drivers/char/hw_random/|\
> > +/drivers/char/tpm/|\
> > +/drivers/char/|\
> > +/drivers/crypto/|\
> > +/drivers/dax/|\
> > +/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/|\
> > +/drivers/gpu/drm/|\
> > +/drivers/md/|\
> > +/drivers/mmc/|\
> > +/drivers/mtd/|\
> > +/drivers/nvdimm/|\
> > +/drivers/nvme/|\
> > +/drivers/pci/|\
> > +/drivers/scsi/|\
> > +/drivers/tee/|\
> > +/drivers/tty/serial/|\
> > +/drivers/virtio/|\
> > +/drivers/watchdog/|\
> > +/kernel/arch/|\
> > +/kernel/block/|\
> > +/kernel/crypto/|\
> > +/kernel/fs/|\
> > +/kernel/lib/\
> > +)(.*)"
> > +
> > +FILES:${PN}-initrd = ""
> > +ALLOW_EMPTY:${PN}-initrd = "1"
> > --
> > 2.43.0
> >
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-27 8:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-21 13:25 [PATCH v2 00/11] systemd based initrd and modular kernel support Mikko Rapeli
2025-03-21 13:25 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] systemd: enable efi support if in MACHINE_FEATURES too Mikko Rapeli
2025-03-23 10:53 ` [OE-core] " Richard Purdie
2025-03-24 7:29 ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-03-24 8:50 ` Koen Kooi
2025-03-24 9:01 ` Mikko Rapeli
[not found] ` <182FACA25EBBEBE7.22661@lists.openembedded.org>
2025-03-24 7:43 ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-03-24 8:49 ` Richard Purdie
2025-03-24 8:53 ` Koen Kooi
2025-03-21 13:25 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] uki.bbclass: drop serial console from kernel command line Mikko Rapeli
2025-03-21 13:25 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] kernel.bbclass: add kernel-initrd-modules meta package Mikko Rapeli
2025-03-21 14:59 ` [OE-core] " Bruce Ashfield
2025-03-24 7:40 ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-03-24 12:33 ` Bruce Ashfield
2025-03-27 8:29 ` Mikko Rapeli [this message]
2025-03-21 13:25 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] core-image-initramfs-boot: add option to build systemd based initrd Mikko Rapeli
2025-03-21 13:25 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] core-image-initramfs-boot: don't install RRECOMMENDS to reduce size Mikko Rapeli
2025-03-21 13:25 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] core-image-initramfs-boot: install kernel-initrd-modules by default Mikko Rapeli
2025-03-21 13:25 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] oeqa selftest uki.py: add aarch64/arm test with systemd based initrd Mikko Rapeli
2025-03-21 13:25 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] test_efi_plugin_plain_systemd-boot: don't set console Mikko Rapeli
2025-03-21 13:25 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] image_types_wic.bbclass: capture verbose wic output by default Mikko Rapeli
2025-03-21 13:25 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] wic bootimg-efi.py: fail build if no binaries installed Mikko Rapeli
2025-03-21 13:25 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] image_types_wic.bbclass: depend on grub-efi and systemd-boot on aarch64, systemd-boot on arm Mikko Rapeli
2025-03-21 13:40 ` Patchtest results for " patchtest
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