From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg0-f66.google.com (mail-pg0-f66.google.com [74.125.83.66]) by mail.openembedded.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8CB471A95; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 23:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pg0-f66.google.com with SMTP id e9so18382119pgc.1; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 15:22:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:organization:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=egQPxnJs33AWSFIni4OxGQ8y+dcQQnVLxWTJ2p/E5iY=; b=GokXdvBaKHHomgZbhcQxM9n+OoT5e8hHejKvJPMW3M050Lti7zvCRPiY1ZYYrRoNnr Qn9rObJauHoGw8rREfzYj/YRFhS77RscbiQMY4nwjxDT8RNwiNgmTUlwZTxxlmkmf4M7 EC7cwY/bwceBgdZWpVOj260h7CcO4JwniKv1CTCJfBnv20UkLzy+xvN95LWbZi1dA07y seHM2UAHQN0XyNhbqTexjLrM+Wuu+fM2YMGLuYEe1J33hmoCavjg3HnFLIoy8w5sTmBc UbsInGc48lSXhRNHW88ltEK7yGbhm+g/I7Ub4dKuA9bQ+tlOxXD3ImK6Z8K+Crrpno8U O+7w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:organization :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=egQPxnJs33AWSFIni4OxGQ8y+dcQQnVLxWTJ2p/E5iY=; b=IohVOZ21EO1jJ1MyKWMPr9TE+327FmV8Q/aa513r6lG8KL1Flbj+OoQsQltDQisVIk vAHMtFq3j8SD05zvpcO94DN55fj3QPnt8ugU2pZ0NsWNj4Lz/rJI6p50yiIecHNNnuMN JFsQgw7uMvXXluYzextX4OOhqvGBg26giSXOb+RgJwCkWWT+iPWbKoEUfWCrkIo1jL9g rEQ2x9Xqe2fqhujRtd61iircrvMFmIu/UJet6T+qf47uPQd1hTgegnV4jdkH9teJ7D5A ZarNlHO54t/Zfazgo9qJVpJMbmTznVb0MYT+OL+HIRUVQrFfm9RfBnBNuhXyOZ7ZAlnk 3jew== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvdhUs5WfjSBb4EAU4a0NCYyTnoN5pYfLwnk8TyN4hzwAu/YsbKEgwZHrRwkkITxlA== X-Received: by 10.99.185.78 with SMTP id v14mr12245970pgo.179.1479424948349; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 15:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from CACSVMO-14452.local ([2601:646:8882:b8c:952d:89df:6fe0:f7d9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a66sm10872085pfa.64.2016.11.17.15.22.27 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Nov 2016 15:22:27 -0800 (PST) To: Denys Dmytriyenko References: <4181f25d-a2bc-bb94-2b94-4d18ad654ab8@gmail.com> <20161117185001.GE26131@denix.org> From: Khem Raj Organization: himvis.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 15:22:26 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/50.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20161117185001.GE26131@denix.org> Cc: openembedded-architecture , OE-core Subject: Re: [Openembedded-architecture] Enabling uninative by default in oe-core? X-BeenThere: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 23:22:28 -0000 X-Groupsio-MsgNum: 89554 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lMk4NieRnbD3gk4a9aU9VxjVLMxigSqcA" --lMk4NieRnbD3gk4a9aU9VxjVLMxigSqcA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="CaWHH6cw7Q1vAwAsrXJPGLXVrVNiOw7jX"; protected-headers="v1" From: Khem Raj To: Denys Dmytriyenko Cc: "Burton, Ross" , OE-core , openembedded-architecture Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Openembedded-architecture] [OE-core] Enabling uninative by default in oe-core? References: <4181f25d-a2bc-bb94-2b94-4d18ad654ab8@gmail.com> <20161117185001.GE26131@denix.org> In-Reply-To: <20161117185001.GE26131@denix.org> --CaWHH6cw7Q1vAwAsrXJPGLXVrVNiOw7jX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/17/16 10:50 AM, Denys Dmytriyenko wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:06:46AM -0800, Khem Raj wrote: >> >> >> On 11/17/16 9:31 AM, Burton, Ross wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Background: uninative is a class that downloads a precompiled host gl= ibc for >>> use in the sysroot, thus isolating the native sysroot from the host >>> environment. This means greater sstate reuse, as instead of native b= uilds >>> being dependent on the host system they're able to be shared between = all >>> hosts. There is a reference tarball hosted on www.yoctoproject.org >>> , and the URL can be overridden by distr= os if you >>> would prefer to build your own. >>> >>> We enable this in Poky so that we get greater reuse on the autobuilde= rs, and >>> due to some issues with the C++ ABI the eSDK generation in master now= requires >>> uninative to be enabled. The question is: do we now enable uninative= by >>> default in oe-core's nodistro (pointing at the yoctoproject tarball),= or do we >>> keep it disabled by default and require the user to enable uninative = if they >>> wish to build an eSDK? >>> >>> Personally I'm torn: I don't like eSDK not working out of the box, bu= t I don't >>> really like oe-core nodistro depending on uninative. Though enabling= >>> uninative globally does mean everything works out of the box, so foll= owing the >>> principle of Least Surprise that's what we should do. >> >> If we are supporing e-SDK in OE-Core then we should enable uninative t= oo >> on the same lines. >> >> It does improve the user experience so I am in favor of adding it >> unconditionally. May be tarball can be hosted on oe mirrors as well fo= r >> redundancy >=20 > I still believe this new feature is moving to become mandatory a bit to= o=20 > soon... perhaps keeping it optional for 1 release would be acceptable ? it also m= eans that we may not be able to develop core features using this and it would = also mean more testing matrix, which I believe is fine. Since we know non unin= ative version wont get as much coverage. >=20 --CaWHH6cw7Q1vAwAsrXJPGLXVrVNiOw7jX-- --lMk4NieRnbD3gk4a9aU9VxjVLMxigSqcA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iEYEARECAAYFAlguO7IACgkQuwUzVZGdMxTrswCeMVKuumSn65QctXmd6uLq3UUi z5MAnjq6PwGsF5GX8bwrtUaikL++QFd5 =GChy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lMk4NieRnbD3gk4a9aU9VxjVLMxigSqcA--