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[82.172.25.154]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-b6cfa6cb6e6sm459581266b.49.2025.10.22.09.05.54 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Oct 2025 09:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2025 18:06:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [OE-core] Ubuntu 25.10: base-passwd fails to chown. (pseudo issue) To: Alexander Kanavin Cc: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org References: <567bf317-620c-4f00-827c-50a511d431c7@munisense.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Gijs Peskens In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: X-Webhook-Received: from li982-79.members.linode.com [45.33.32.79] by aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org with HTTPS for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2025 16:06:06 -0000 X-Groupsio-URL: https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/225204 On 10/22/25 13:11, Alexander Kanavin wrote: > Thanks for the report. I was dreading the day this happens, and I'm > sure others as well. Chances are, other distros will follow, and then > Yocto project has a problem. > > Should we build C based native coreutils as early as possible, and > then use only that? That might buy some time, but isn't a real > solution, if GNU stops their development. I'd guess that's the lowest energy approach, other routes would potentially involve writing the utils themselves with pseudo in mind and calling back into host utilities where needed. I don't believe GNU would stop development on coreutils anywhere in the near(ish) future, nor that the approach of building native coreutils would break since it should more or less only depend on the libC and kernel, things which aren't going away anytime soon. Perhaps some magic right now inside bitbake that checks whether the host-utils are uutils and fails early would be nice (again: I'm aware I'm in unsupported land, energy shouldn't be wasted too much). Gijs