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From: Alexander Kanavin <alexander.kanavin@linux.intel.com>
To: Andreas Oberritter <obi@opendreambox.org>,
	openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/33] Accumulated patches for deb packaging
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 18:02:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea5d7136-34cb-f495-abd3-dd12ddd04cdd@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb6aaabe-3c7a-7e56-4e82-f36dd288c366@opendreambox.org>

On 12/07/2016 05:30 PM, Andreas Oberritter wrote:
>>> These are most of my patches which accumulated since our distro
>>> switched from opkg to dpkg and apt two years ago. They were tested
>>> thoroughly on dora and krogoth and just a little bit on master.
>>
>> How about updating apt and dpkg to latest upstream releases at the same
>> time?
>
> I don't see an advantage over updating at a later point in time.

The advantage is that oe-core does not accumulate technical debt that way.

Specifically, it's better to do many incremental version updates than 
few massive updates (or avoid updates altogether until the ongoing 
maintenance becomes unbearable, in the worst case). There is less 
changes in upstream code to deal with, less dependency fixing, and less 
resistance from community. This is actually the preferred mode of 
operation in oe-core. We are constantly fighting back against the 
increase in debt, and you could really help us here a bit.


Regards,
Alex


      reply	other threads:[~2016-12-07 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-06 11:49 [PATCH 00/33] Accumulated patches for deb packaging Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 01/33] dpkg: implement offline mode for update-alternatives Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 18:31   ` Burton, Ross
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 02/33] dpkg: update-alternatives-dpkg should conflict with other providers Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 19:52   ` Burton, Ross
2016-12-07  1:30     ` Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-08 16:16       ` Burton, Ross
2016-12-08 19:22         ` Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-22 13:37           ` Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 03/33] dpkg-native: hardcode SYSCONFDIR to /etc in update-alternatives Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 15:39   ` Burton, Ross
2016-12-06 16:08     ` Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 16:12       ` Burton, Ross
2016-12-06 16:37         ` Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 17:07           ` Burton, Ross
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 04/33] apt-native: Use option --force-script-chrootless for rootfs Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 05/33] package_manager/deb: pass option --force-script-chrootless to dpkg Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 06/33] debianutils: Allow native builds Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 07/33] apt-native: merge apt-native.inc into .bb Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 08/33] apt: merge apt-package.inc " Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 09/33] apt-native: use sed to prepare apt.conf.sample Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 10/33] apt: use default packaging rules for manpages Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 11/33] apt: use default packaging rules for base package, prepend apt-utils Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 12/33] apt: use default packaging rules for -dev package Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 13/33] apt: rewrite do_install Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 14/33] apt-native: drop obsolete patches Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 15/33] apt: merge with apt-native Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 16/33] apt: merge apt.inc into .bb Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 17/33] apt: group variables (license, configuration, packaging) Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 18/33] apt: more fine-grained packaging Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 19/33] apt: recommend gnupg Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 20/33] package_manager/deb: let apt-get handle postinst scripts Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 17:26   ` Burton, Ross
2016-12-06 18:20     ` Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 18:24       ` Burton, Ross
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 21/33] package_manager/deb: create Packages.xz Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 17:22   ` Burton, Ross
2016-12-06 18:41     ` Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 18:46       ` Burton, Ross
2016-12-07  1:24         ` Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 22/33] package_manager/deb: implement BAD_RECOMMENDATIONS Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 23/33] dpkg: use PACKAGECONFIG Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 24/33] dpkg: set license field to more common "GPLv2+" Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 25/33] dpkg: clean-up packaging of start-stop-daemon Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 26/33] dpkg: remove unneeded do_configure override Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 27/33] dpkg: simplify replacing perl interpreter in scripts Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 28/33] dpkg: update packages and files to match Debian more closely Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 20:13   ` Burton, Ross
2016-12-07  1:41     ` Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 29/33] dpkg: always install dpkg-configure.service Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 30/33] dpkg: use correct path for perl libraries Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 31/33] package_deb.bbclass: compress control.tar with the same algorithm as data.tar Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 32/33] apt: fix rpath error during configure Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 11:49 ` [PATCH 33/33] apt: dselect depends on perl Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-06 14:36 ` [PATCH 00/33] Accumulated patches for deb packaging Burton, Ross
2016-12-06 16:00   ` Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-07 12:25 ` Alexander Kanavin
2016-12-07 15:30   ` Andreas Oberritter
2016-12-07 16:02     ` Alexander Kanavin [this message]

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