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From: Phil Blundell <philb@gnu.org>
To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: Eliminating dependency race-conditions (was Re: [PATCH] net-snmp: disable libnl use)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:18:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1300360696.2132.14681.camel@phil-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1300180117.2522.14.camel@eha>

On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 10:08 +0100, Esben Haabendal wrote:
> The current dependency/staging model of OE basically has this feature
> that a build can be influenced not only by it's own dependencies, but
> also what has been build before it (or not).
> 
> I strongly believe that this has to be fixed on the architectural level,
> and not just on a case-by-case level as is currently needed.

Yes, agreed.  This clearly sucks, and indeed I think it is probably the
largest single area of architectural suckage in OE today.

> I am still very much interested in discussing how to move this
> technology from OE-lite to OE, but as it impacts all recipe metadata
> (build dependencies has to be redefined), OE community at a large really
> needs to value the benefits of solving this problem.

The benefits of solving the problem are clearly very great, but I don't
think OE itself is really in a position to embrace a "big bang" kind of
change which would require redefining all the build dependencies.  I
think we need to find a technological solution which will work with our
current DEPENDS scheme.

I did do some work in that direction about a year ago, but I got
sidetracked into dealing with some toolchain suckage (which was making
it difficult to construct the per-recipe sysroots in the way that I
wanted) and then ran out of time.  I would like to get back to working
on this stuff but right now it is difficult for me to set aside the time
for it.

p.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-17 11:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-11 11:04 [PATCH] net-snmp: disable libnl use Steffen Sledz
2011-03-11 13:05 ` Koen Kooi
2011-03-11 15:53   ` Steffen Sledz
2011-03-12  0:05     ` Khem Raj
2011-03-14  7:06       ` Steffen Sledz
2011-03-14 16:39         ` Khem Raj
2011-03-15  9:08 ` Eliminating dependency race-conditions (was Re: [PATCH] net-snmp: disable libnl use) Esben Haabendal
2011-03-15 22:03   ` Denys Dmytriyenko
2011-03-16  5:47     ` Eliminating dependency race-conditions Esben Haabendal
2011-03-16  6:22       ` Python-native dependency in libxml2 Ahsan, Noor
2011-03-16  7:08         ` Khem Raj
2011-03-16  7:28           ` Frans Meulenbroeks
2011-03-16  7:43             ` Khem Raj
2011-03-16  8:00               ` Frans Meulenbroeks
2011-03-16  8:05             ` Martin Jansa
2011-03-16  8:38               ` Ahsan, Noor
2011-03-17 10:40                 ` Ahsan, Noor
2011-03-18  7:41                   ` Ahsan, Noor
2011-03-18  8:38                     ` Martin Jansa
2011-03-18  9:47                       ` Koen Kooi
2011-03-18  9:01                     ` Frans Meulenbroeks
2011-03-16  6:35       ` Eliminating dependency race-conditions Frans Meulenbroeks
2011-03-15 23:15   ` Eliminating dependency race-conditions (was Re: [PATCH] net-snmp: disable libnl use) Graham Gower
2011-03-17 11:18   ` Phil Blundell [this message]
2011-03-17 14:43     ` Esben Haabendal
2011-03-17 14:52       ` Graeme Gregory
2011-03-17 15:24         ` Koen Kooi
2011-03-17 15:07       ` Phil Blundell
2011-03-17 17:52         ` Esben Haabendal
2011-03-17 18:05           ` Phil Blundell
2011-03-17 19:58             ` Esben Haabendal
2011-03-17 21:00               ` Phil Blundell
2011-03-18  5:29                 ` Esben Haabendal
2011-03-18 10:26                   ` Phil Blundell
2011-03-18 12:14                     ` Eliminating dependency race-conditions Esben Haabendal
2011-03-19  0:32                       ` Richard Purdie
2011-03-22  9:01                         ` Esben Haabendal
2011-03-23 20:31                           ` Frans Meulenbroeks
2011-03-19  0:18               ` Eliminating dependency race-conditions (was Re: [PATCH] net-snmp: disable libnl use) Richard Purdie
2011-03-22  9:00                 ` Eliminating dependency race-conditions Esben Haabendal

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