From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mga09.intel.com ([134.134.136.24]) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RTXob-0007Te-5z for openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:50:05 +0100 Received: from orsmga001.jf.intel.com ([10.7.209.18]) by orsmga102.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 24 Nov 2011 03:43:31 -0800 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,352,1309762800"; d="scan'208";a="79518646" Received: from unknown (HELO helios.localnet) ([10.252.121.190]) by orsmga001.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 24 Nov 2011 03:43:30 -0800 From: Paul Eggleton To: Paul Menzel Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:43:28 +0000 Message-ID: <1341768.l3QXe5jHAh@helios> Organization: Intel Corporation User-Agent: KMail/4.7.3 (Linux/3.0.0-13-generic-pae; KDE/4.7.3; i686; ; ) In-Reply-To: <1322134409.3391.21.camel@mattotaupa> References: <1322134409.3391.21.camel@mattotaupa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org Subject: Re: Plans for OE classic future X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:50:08 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Thursday 24 November 2011 12:33:29 Paul Menzel wrote: > You seem to use OE-core and meta-oe already so I understand your point > of view. Martin, Koen, Andreas and you are doing the major work for > meta-oe and not a lot of other people contribute. > > In my opinion it is a bad sign to force people to switch. OE-core and > meta-oe should be so appealing that they switch by themselves. My > impression from reading the list and from IRC is that a lot of people > still have objections and are not totally comfortable. Good community > management would be to listen to these people then try to find solutions > and implement them. People then should come by themselves. Let's not get carried away. In the current discussion it seems the main objection to switching from several people is that they are in the middle or close to the end of their development cycle on products that depend on OE- classic; it's totally understandable that those people can't switch at this time. I'm not entirely convinced those people can't use the 2011.3 maintenance branch for those purposes however. As regards to things missing or improvements needed in the new OE-core based structure, those things will only get better when people who are able to do so commit to moving across. You can't expect a restructuring of the thousands of recipes to come fully formed from a small number of developers - please, we need your help. If more people get involved it's only a small amount of work for lots of people as opposed to a large amount of work for very few. Cheers, Paul -- Paul Eggleton Intel Open Source Technology Centre