From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [195.149.226.213] (helo=smtp.host4.kei.pl) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IDLPH-0007KR-Ve for openembedded-devel@openembedded.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:30:36 +0200 Received: (qmail 3766 invoked by uid 813007); 24 Jul 2007 14:29:26 -0000 X-clamdmail: clamdmail 0.18a Received: from v813.rev.tld.pl (HELO home.lan) (marcin@hrw.one.pl@195.149.226.213) by smtp.host4.kei.pl with ESMTPA; 24 Jul 2007 14:29:26 -0000 From: Marcin Juszkiewicz To: angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:29:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1185226710.6148.133.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1185226710.6148.133.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200707241629.21404.openembedded@hrw.one.pl> Cc: openembedded-devel@openembedded.org Subject: Re: [Angstrom-devel] Angstrom Core Team X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:30:36 -0000 X-Groupsio-MsgNum: 2491 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4012576.9aqeduQRuL"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart4012576.9aqeduQRuL Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Dnia poniedzia=C5=82ek, 23 lipca 2007, Richard Purdie napisa=C5=82: > As people will note, Laibsch (Rolf) has been frustrated by politics and > personalities getting in the way of development and this is *bad*. I > don't think anyone wants this. Losing developers is always harm. Losing valueable ones is even more harm. > With this in mind I'd like to propose creating a formal core of > Angstrom developers similar to that which exists in OE (and has seemed > to work well as far as I know). +1 from me > The core team is basically a group of developers who can collectively > guide the project. At the moment the leadership for Angstrom is unclear > and this would clarify that and mean that a solid structure is > established. When we will create core team we will need to create documentation team=20 which need to consist atleast one core developer and users interested in=20 writing documentation. It was working in last OpenZaurus releases so I=20 did not had to spend time on docs. Which method to use is what I would=20 leave for doc team. It can be drupal or any wiki as long as it allow to=20 protect pages from editing of people without proper rights. Personally I=20 do not care about which tool is used as long as it works and does not mix=20 with other projects. > Whilst I can't really call myself an Angstrom developer exactly, I do > have a vested interest in seeing it become a success. Why is Angstrom > important? Most of the other handheld distributions in OpenEmbedded > were lining themselves up to work under the Angstrom banner. Familiar > and OpenZaurus are dead projects and all hopes for handhelds support > from OE now rest on Angstrom's shoulders. OE therefore has a vested > interest in Angstrom and this is one reason I want to see it succeed. I > also think it has massive potential if done correctly. And there is also commercial way. As Todd Blumer wrote his company plans=20 to use =C3=85ngstr=C3=B6m on their devices - there are other companies whic= h looks=20 at =C3=85ngstr=C3=B6m during work on own ones. We have a possibility to cre= ate one=20 good distro for all our devices/toys. > What I don't want is anyone feeling the need for yet-another-distro > which would be the next step is Angstrom's leadership cannot be made > clear. This leads to fragmentation which is bad. Right - currently we have 4 distros in OE which use =C3=85ngstr=C3=B6m=20 configurations (FooNAS, MokoSlug, Mamona, amsdelta-oe) - they are more or=20 less same as our but use other names due to marketing (FooNAS, Mamona I=20 think). I hope that we can merge them one day so only names and some=20 images, tweaks will left from them. > So who should be on the core team? My thoughts are that Koen is an > obvious candidate. I'd propose Marcin/hrw (experience from OZ), > Graeme/XorA (developer/user) and Rod Whitby/rwhitby (to represent the > other non handhelds that Angstrom supports). I'd also propose inviting > Rolf/laibsch if he does consider coming back to the project. I as thinking about few other persons more: =2D Mickeyl as one of =C3=85ngstr=C3=B6m founders and representant of comme= rcial=20 distro (which has plans to merge with us) =2D CoreDump - but some people will not agree and I think that he prefers t= o=20 work on getting distro working his way (I expect Hengtes distro release=20 after we release) =2D Paul Sokolovski came to my mind too - he maintain many of our target=20 devices and spent lot of time to get OPIE working in our distro =2D-=20 JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant 42? 7 and a half million years and all you can come up with is 42?! --nextPart4012576.9aqeduQRuL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGpgzBeQ6MlGH/2qsRAt/GAJ9XI2YGtQmvCBQwPYv9zsR+yToovgCbBjvE Wxiuhr1Y8yikKAqYe3JHAA8= =fa85 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4012576.9aqeduQRuL--