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From: Koen Kooi <k.kooi@student.utwente.nl>
To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: Using bitbake in minimal chroot environment
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:43:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <hlc4jp$cfc$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100215171952.GA3233@jama>

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On 15-02-10 18:19, Martin Jansa wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 05:59:39PM +0100, Frans Meulenbroeks wrote:
>>>> I'm just thinking about using bitbake only in minimalistic chroot.
> 
> Already rebuilding in new chroot :).
> 
>>>>
>>>> What are advantages/disadvantages?
>>>>
>>>> How I see it:
>>>>
>>>> Advantages:
>>>> 1) more secure (I started to use separate user for bitbake, when I
>>>>    started to play with bitbake master instead release - because that
>>>>    warning it said), but chroot is even better.
>>>> 2) less problems when autotools pick some header or lib from buildhost
>>>>    instead of staging
>>>> 3) easier to check, that -native package is missing for some important
>>>>    lib
>>>>
>>>> Disadvantages:
>>>> 1) Few more MB for building environment (extra libc, gcc, binutils, git,
>>>>    svn, sh, etc. installed in chroot
>>
>> If they are on the same filesystem you could use hard links and save those MBs.
> 
> Not so big problem for me, so I used mount --bind for dirs I want to
> share (ie /usr/portage as I'm using gentoo) and it took only about
> 100MB.. so not a big deal
> 
>>>> 2) More administrative to keep chroot system updated
>>>> 3) harder to check, that autotools won't pick something from buildhost
>>>>    in normal environment before pushing new version/recipe (ie I won't
>>>>    have SDL libs installed in chroot, but everybody else will and maybe
>>>>    build will fail for them after I push some recipe.
>>>
>>> I see this as a good thing :)
> 
> The last point? Well it's good for me (less issues) but if I push some
> recipe failing for 99% other builders just because they have pretty
> standard libs on their systems, then I should be blamed for pushing
> crappy recipe :).
> 
>> Seems a good plan to me, please keep us posted.
>> (actually I've been considering building in a minimalistic VM)
> 
> Well VM would be much slower.. 

On a recent intel/amd cpu VMs I can't measure much difference between VM
and non-vm builds.
My main buildmachine at work is an ubuntu 8.04LTS vm running under
windows XP. The only major speedup I can get building in a native
install would be using 64bit, since the VM is 32 bit, but it does expose
both CPU cores :)

regards,

Koen
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-02-15 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-14 13:56 Using bitbake in minimal chroot environment Martin Jansa
2010-02-15 15:24 ` Philip Balister
2010-02-15 16:59   ` Frans Meulenbroeks
2010-02-15 17:19     ` Martin Jansa
2010-02-15 17:57       ` Frans Meulenbroeks
2010-02-15 18:12         ` Martin Jansa
2010-02-15 18:22         ` Mike Westerhof
2010-02-15 18:36           ` Martin Jansa
2010-02-15 18:43       ` Koen Kooi [this message]
2010-02-15 20:53         ` Frans Meulenbroeks
2010-02-15 22:04         ` Tom Rini
2010-02-15 22:15           ` Koen Kooi
2010-02-16  8:11           ` Koen Kooi
2010-02-18  9:20           ` Marcin Juszkiewicz
2010-02-18  9:43             ` Koen Kooi
2010-02-18 13:30             ` Henning Heinold
2010-02-16 13:52 ` Otavio Salvador
2010-02-17  9:35   ` Martin Jansa

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