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From: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: [meta-oe][RFC 00/27] systemd / initmanager rework
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:07:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jgtl0v$gd6$1@dough.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP9ODKpDe4Up_mCuRdTqNY6a-Kkxyz2ZR-GR9uQ+VFFW0HGsJQ@mail.gmail.com>

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Op 08-02-12 12:00, Otavio Salvador schreef:
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 06:18, Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
> wrote:
> 
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>> Op 08-02-12 01:39, Joshua Lock schreef:
>>> It looks like systemd provides various interfaces and API's that
>>> packages may or may not use and as more packages adopt these we're
>>> going to need to be able to enable/disable more than just some unit
>>> files/scripts for init support.
>> 
>> Most (if not all) of those APIs are designed to be used with or
>> without systemd as initmanager, that is why there are seperate shared
>> libraries. I need to double check, but polkit might be the only
>> exception to that in that it needs to have systemd actuall running. But
>> multi-seat is broken anyway currently, so not much difference for the
>> end user either way :)
>> 
> 
> Well, it being broken or not doesn't change that it explicitly depends
> on systemd. We also ought to have a design that will work when this works
> and it seems, up to now, that distro  feature is the only solution  for
> now.

If it's just polkit and udisks and image feature works well enough. Perfect
is the enemy of good and all that.

regards,

Koen
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-08 11:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-07 15:12 [meta-oe][RFC 00/27] systemd / initmanager rework Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 01/27] systemd.bbclass: rework Andreas Müller
2012-02-09  8:14   ` Andreas Müller
2012-02-09 11:03     ` Otavio Salvador
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 02/27] initmanager.bbclass: inital add Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:39   ` Paul Eggleton
2012-02-07 15:57     ` Otavio Salvador
2012-02-07 22:53       ` Khem Raj
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 03/27] image.bbclass: inherit initmanager.bbclass and set default value for IMAGE_INIT_MANAGER Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:36   ` Paul Eggleton
2012-02-07 15:59     ` Otavio Salvador
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 04/27] elsa: remove unneeded systemd code Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 05/27] connman: " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 06/27] openssh: " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 07/27] gateone: " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 08/27] cronie: " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 09/27] xserver-nodm-init: " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 10/27] busybox: " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 11/27] atftp: " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 12/27] gpsd: " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 13/27] gdm: inherit systemd / " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 14/27] dropbear: " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 15/27] cloud9: pack systemd support in ${PN}-systemd / " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 16/27] slim: inherit systemd " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 17/27] udisks: conditional DEPENDS " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 18/27] rsyslog: " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 19/27] polkit: conditional DEPEND systemd Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:35   ` Martin Jansa
2012-02-07 15:40   ` Paul Eggleton
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 20/27] syslog-ng: conditional --enable-systemd --with-systemdsystemunitdir / remove unneeded systemd code Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 21/27] lighthttpd: inherit systemd / added systemd native support " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 22/27] cherokee: " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 23/27] networkmanager: inherit systemd / added NetworkManager-wait-online.service " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 24/27] ntp: add native systemd support for ntpdate " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 25/27] dhcp: add native support for dhcp-relay " Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 26/27] task-basic: replace systemd specific packets by common ones / conditionally RDEPENDS avahi(-systemd) systemd-compat-units Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:12 ` [meta-oe][RFC 27/27] task-x11: replace systemd specific packets by common ones Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:30   ` Martin Jansa
2012-02-07 15:52 ` [meta-oe][RFC 00/27] systemd / initmanager rework Koen Kooi
2012-02-07 16:24   ` Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 17:14     ` Koen Kooi
2012-02-07 17:58       ` Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 15:55 ` Otavio Salvador
2012-02-07 16:02   ` Koen Kooi
2012-02-07 16:18     ` Otavio Salvador
2012-02-08  0:39   ` Joshua Lock
2012-02-08  8:18     ` Koen Kooi
2012-02-08 11:00       ` Otavio Salvador
2012-02-08 11:07         ` Koen Kooi [this message]
2012-02-08 11:12           ` Otavio Salvador
2012-02-08 12:14             ` Koen Kooi
2012-02-08 12:18               ` Paul Eggleton
2012-02-08 12:21                 ` Koen Kooi
2012-02-08 12:49                 ` Koen Kooi
2012-02-08 12:28               ` Otavio Salvador
2012-02-08 12:43                 ` Martin Jansa
2012-02-08 13:05                   ` Koen Kooi
2012-02-08 12:51               ` Andreas Müller
2012-02-08 12:54                 ` Koen Kooi
2012-02-08 12:56                 ` Martin Jansa
2012-02-08 13:19               ` Khem Raj
2012-02-08 15:35                 ` Otavio Salvador
2012-02-08 11:31           ` Andreas Müller
2012-02-08 10:57     ` Otavio Salvador
2012-02-07 16:35 ` Andreas Müller
2012-02-07 16:39   ` Otavio Salvador

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