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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>
Cc: perfbook@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Some more feedback on Chapter 9
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 15:19:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160728221950.GN3873@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a31719d7-0a87-d01a-9bc2-6deab382e2a9@gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 06:41:37AM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote:
> On 2016/07/28 10:40:57 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 10:06:22PM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote:
> >> Hi Paul,
> >>
> >> There are still several issues regarding Chapter 9 I want to feedback.
> >> I'm afraid most of them are beyond my ability to submit as patches.
> >>
> >> * At the beginning of Section 9.5.2, there is a credit of the form
> >>   "Authors: ...".
> >>   But there is \OriginallyPublished{} command just above the credit.
> >>   I'm wondering if the credit in the text is necessary.
> >>   There is a similar credit at the beginning of Section 14.2, but there is
> >>   no \OriginallyPublished{} command there. This section seems to have been
> >>   written for perfbook. If this is the case, for a consistent look, it would
> >>   be better if the credit is moved to Appendix F.1.
> > 
> > Good point!  I am guessing that these predated \OriginallyPublished{}, and
> > that I didn't get around to fixing them properly.  I have now fixed them.
> > 
> >> * Position of Quick Quiz 9.44 looks a little premature. SRCU is  mentioned
> >>   just after the Quick Quiz.
> > 
> > Good catch, moved.
> > 
> >> * The 2nd sentence of Section 9.5.4.4 ends as "... in the companion article."
> >>   This seems like a vestige of its origin in LWN. Should be fixed to match
> >>   the context.
> > 
> > Now it is "Section~\ref{sec:defer:RCU Usage}", good eyes!
> > 
> >> * In the introduction of Section 9.5.5, understanding of the whole Chapter 9
> >>   is listed in the prerequisite for the "toy" implementation. I suppose
> >>   recursion is not intended here.
> > 
> > You know, that is strangely appropriate, now that you mention it!  ;-)
> > 
> > But how about the following?
> > 
> > 	Nevertheless, you will need a thorough understanding of Chapters
> > 	2, 3, 4, and 6, as well as the previous portions of Chapter 9 for
> > 	even these toy RCU implementations to be easily understandable.
> 
> It's perfect!
> 
> > 
> >> * Also in the introduction of Section 9.5.5, Section 9.5.5.2 is not mentioned.
> > 
> > Fixed!  Now "Section 9.5.5.2 through 9.5.5.9".
> > 
> 
> Wouldn't "Sections 9.5.5.2 through 9.5.5.9" be better?

And fixed again.  ;-)

> >> * (Typo) In the 2nd paragraph of Section 9.7, there is a redundant "can" in
> >>   "... so that updates can can operate locally, ...".
> >>   (Yes, I can submit the fix of this one as a patch. If you want me to do so,
> >>   please let me know.)
> > 
> > I fixed it with your Reported-by.
> > 
> > And here is the Youtube video corresponding to that particular typo:
> > 
> > 	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Diu2N8TGKA
> 
> :-)
> 
> > 
> >> * (Apart from Chapter 9) In Section 14.2.10.1, there are four instances of
> >>   $\dagger$ for introducing notes. I'm wondering if they can be converted
> >>   to footnotes. I'm not sure where they should be placed in the text, though.
> > 
> > Odd.  Those were there in the initial git commit.
> > 
> > I am removing the $\dagger$ commands and thus letting them be normal
> > paragraphs.
> > 
> >> I said earlier there were a few issues, but in the end there are a quite a few.
> >>
> >> I don't mind if some (or all) of them be taken care of later after the upcoming
> >> release.
> > 
> > They were all reasonably easy, so might as well do them now.  Famous
> > last words.  ;-)
> > 
> > I commited and pushed them all.
> 
> Quick work!

Easy changes.  A hard change would be write a new chapter or some such.  ;-)

> There is one thing I forgot to mention.
> 
> In Appendix C.7.3, ARM-v7's memory barrier instructions are explained.
> My understanding is that ARM-v8's memory barrier instructions are in line
> with the semantics of Linux kernel's memory barrier primitives.
> Wouldn't it be worth to mention somewhere, e.g., in a footnote?

I do have "ARMv8 has recently added load-acquire and store-release
instructions" in a footnote.

The memory-barrier discussion needs a full rewrite, but that must
wait on some ongoing work to actually formally define what exactly the
Linux-kernel memory model is.  That rewrite will bring in ARMv8.

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-28 22:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-28 13:06 Some more feedback on Chapter 9 Akira Yokosawa
2016-07-28 17:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-07-28 21:41   ` Akira Yokosawa
2016-07-28 22:19     ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2016-07-28 21:59   ` Akira Yokosawa
2016-07-28 22:21     ` Paul E. McKenney

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