From: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
To: "Michał Kępień" <kernel@kempniu.pl>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>,
Rezwanul Kabir <Rezwanul_Kabir@dell.com>,
Alex Hung <alex.hung@canonical.com>,
Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>,
platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Dell Vostro V131 hotkeys revisited
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 12:55:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150701105544.GD17577@pali> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150701101146.GA3421@eudyptula.hq.kempniu.pl>
On Wednesday 01 July 2015 12:11:46 Michał Kępień wrote:
> > Ok, I do not know all these windows internals, but it would be cool to
> > check if WMI event is really received with correct mask in that NEVT
> > method. No idea if this is possible to debug/test on windows...
>
> That was my first idea after analyzing the NEVT method, but after
> skimming through the AMLI Debugger and KD docs, I got the impression
> that setting up an ACPI debugging session in Windows is so much of a
> hassle [1] for someone with no experience in Windows kernel-mode
> debugging that I'd rather hack the hell out of the DSDT in Linux and get
> on with my life.
>
> > > Well, here's the catch: there is no PNP0C09 device in the DSDT and thus
> > > the EC driver isn't even loaded in Linux and I can't dump EC registers.
> > > Yet Windows tools seem to be able to do it, using ports 0x66/0x62. I'm
> > > confused.
> > >
> >
> > Hm... could be this reason? And windows read pressed hotkeys from EC
> > registers?
> >
> > Can you ask acpi guys what could *not* work if acpi ec driver is not
> > loaded?
>
> Maybe I am missing something here, but even if the above turns out to be
> the case, how would such knowledge help in solving the issue? Suppose we
> learn that some magic command needs to be sent to the EC to enable event
> reporting via WMI, but we cannot do that as the kernel doesn't even see
> the EC.
>
It would mean that we need to write new driver for it (or extend some).
> If I'm reading the DSDT dump correctly, it seems the Vostro V131 makes
> heavy use of SMIs. \SB.SMII is an alias for the 0xB2 I/O port, which is
> written to by the WMI and SXX6 methods. A call to the latter is made
> inside ECG1 (from SX11, specifically). IOW, an SMI is generated to get
> the event code. My guess would be that some magic SMI has to be
> generated if events are to be reported via WMI or something among the
> lines. Which gets us back to hearing from Dell as trying random values
> doesn't sound like a sane thing to do.
>
Yes, I'm still thinking about some missing init call. And for that we
need documentation: what and how.
> [1] Another Windows machine is needed, debugging over a network cable is
> only supported since Windows 8, the Vostro V131 doesn't have any
> Firewire or serial ports, so I'd need to buy a USB debug cable, then get
> get my hands on a checked version of Acpi.sys and pray it all works. Now
> compare all that to recompiling the kernel with
> CONFIG_ACPI_CUSTOM_METHOD and CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG enabled.
>
I know, debugging windows kernel is hard and only sometimes is possible.
--
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com
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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-23 11:26 Dell Vostro V131 hotkeys revisited Michał Kępień
2015-06-23 11:46 ` Pali Rohár
2015-06-23 19:40 ` Michał Kępień
2015-06-23 19:47 ` Pali Rohár
2015-06-24 11:18 ` Michał Kępień
2015-06-24 13:23 ` Pali Rohár
2015-06-25 9:02 ` Michał Kępień
2015-06-27 18:50 ` Pali Rohár
2015-06-30 7:38 ` Michał Kępień
2015-06-30 8:00 ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-01 8:32 ` Michał Kępień
2015-07-01 8:40 ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-01 10:11 ` Michał Kępień
2015-07-01 10:55 ` Pali Rohár [this message]
2015-07-02 20:41 ` Michał Kępień
2015-07-02 20:58 ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-03 6:52 ` Michał Kępień
2015-07-03 7:48 ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-03 11:26 ` Michał Kępień
2015-07-03 11:43 ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-03 13:23 ` Michał Kępień
2015-07-03 13:32 ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-03 13:50 ` Michał Kępień
2015-07-03 14:09 ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-03 14:14 ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-03 18:22 ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2015-07-03 20:07 ` Michał Kępień
2015-07-03 20:30 ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2015-07-04 19:41 ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-04 20:34 ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2015-07-03 20:55 ` Michał Kępień
2015-07-04 19:13 ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-04 19:47 ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-27 19:27 ` Michał Kępień
2015-07-07 18:36 ` Mario Limonciello
2015-07-07 21:01 ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-08 3:21 ` Michał Kępień
2015-07-08 3:53 ` Michał Kępień
2015-07-22 7:35 ` Michał Kępień
2015-08-31 9:51 ` Michał Kępień
2015-09-10 4:38 ` Darren Hart
2015-11-13 10:17 ` Michał Kępień
2015-12-07 11:43 ` Pali Rohár
2015-12-16 9:05 ` Michał Kępień
2015-12-16 9:30 ` Pali Rohár
2015-12-16 10:29 ` Hans de Goede
2015-12-17 8:05 ` Michał Kępień
2015-12-17 9:48 ` Hans de Goede
2015-12-17 18:47 ` Pali Rohár
2015-12-17 18:54 ` Hans de Goede
2015-12-19 0:02 ` Darren Hart
2015-12-19 9:59 ` Pali Rohár
2015-12-18 7:10 ` Michał Kępień
2015-12-18 10:44 ` Hans de Goede
2015-12-19 12:31 ` Michał Kępień
2015-07-04 21:24 ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-05 4:51 ` Michał Kępień
2015-06-23 12:18 ` Pali Rohár
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