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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
Cc: Mario.Limonciello@dell.com, dvhart@infradead.org,
	andy.shevchenko@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org, luto@kernel.org,
	quasisec@google.com, rjw@rjwysocki.net, mjg59@google.com,
	hch@lst.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 12/14] platform/x86: wmi: create character devices when requested by drivers
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 18:26:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171005162628.GA4993@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171005155156.GZ10938@pali>

On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 05:51:56PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Thursday 05 October 2017 17:42:14 Greg KH wrote:
> > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/wmi.h
> > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,10 @@
> > > > > +#ifndef _UAPI_LINUX_WMI_H
> > > > > +#define _UAPI_LINUX_WMI_H
> > > > > +
> > > > > +#define WMI_IOC 'W'
> > > > > +#define WMI_IO(instance)	_IO(WMI_IOC, instance)
> > > > > +#define WMI_IOR(instance)	_IOR(WMI_IOC, instance, void*)
> > > > > +#define WMI_IOW(instance)	_IOW(WMI_IOC, instance, void*)
> > > > > +#define WMI_IOWR(instance)	_IOWR(WMI_IOC, instance, void*)
> > > > 
> > > > Ugh, void *, this is going to be "fun"...
> > > > 
> > > > My comments on just how fun is left for the actual driver that attempted
> > > > to implement these...
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > So until in kernel MOF parsing is available you can't predict the format of
> > > what an individual ACPI method will expect for its input.  Even when the in
> > > kernel MOF parsing is made available the data types may be complex structures.
> > 
> > 
> > I have no idea what MOF is, what "parsing" is involved, or how in the
> > world ACPI got involved here...
> > 
> > good luck!
> > 
> > greg k-h
> 
> Hi Greg! Simple description: In ACPI is stored binary MOF buffer which
> describe format (function name, parameters, sizeof and type of
> parameters, etc) for all those calls.
> 
> Basically it is what should be used for checking if userspace pass
> correct "buffer" via ioctl to WMI.
> 
> But that binary MOF is undocumented, invented by Microsoft... and
> present in every one ACPI BIOS notebook (which uses WMI). It is
> de-facto industrial standard, just tools for encoding/decoding it are
> only for Microsoft Windows systems.
> 
> I was able to decipher that format and wrote simple userspace parser:
> https://github.com/pali/bmfdec
> 
> Funny part is that format is not encrypted, but compressed by DMSDOS
> compatible compression algorithm :-) You probably would remember old
> FAT16 days with compression...
> 
> Hope that it helps you to understand it.

It does, thanks.  And as we now understand it (I'm guessing it had to be
semi-understood in the older wmi drivers already), validating it
properly seems to be the key for creating an interface that we "know" to
be safe.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-05 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-04 22:48 [PATCH v4 00/14] Introduce support for Dell SMBIOS over WMI Mario Limonciello
2017-10-04 22:48 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] platform/x86: wmi: Add new method wmidev_evaluate_method Mario Limonciello
2017-10-04 22:48 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] platform/x86: dell-wmi: clean up wmi descriptor check Mario Limonciello
2017-10-04 22:48 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] platform/x86: dell-wmi: allow 32k return size in the descriptor Mario Limonciello
2017-10-04 22:48 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] platform/x86: dell-wmi: increase severity of some failures Mario Limonciello
2017-10-05  5:20   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-10-05 15:02     ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-05 18:22       ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-10-04 22:48 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] platform/x86: dell-wmi-descriptor: split WMI descriptor into it's own driver Mario Limonciello
2017-10-05  1:09   ` Darren Hart
2017-10-05  5:29     ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-10-05  7:11       ` Darren Hart
2017-10-05  8:47         ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-10-05 13:59           ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-05 14:14             ` Darren Hart
2017-10-05 14:47               ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-05 17:22                 ` Darren Hart
2017-10-05 17:32                   ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-05  5:34   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-10-05 17:04     ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-04 22:48 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] platform/x86: wmi: Don't allow drivers to get each other's GUIDs Mario Limonciello
2017-10-04 22:48 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] platform/x86: dell-smbios: only run if proper oem string is detected Mario Limonciello
2017-10-04 22:48 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] platform/x86: dell-smbios: Add a sysfs interface for SMBIOS tokens Mario Limonciello
2017-10-05  8:49   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-10-05 13:58     ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-05 14:22       ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-10-04 22:48 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] platform/x86: dell-smbios: Introduce dispatcher for SMM calls Mario Limonciello
2017-10-05  1:57   ` Darren Hart
2017-10-05 15:04     ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-04 22:48 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] platform/x86: dell-smbios-smm: test for WSMT Mario Limonciello
2017-10-05  1:59   ` Darren Hart
2017-10-04 22:48 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] platform/x86: dell-smbios-wmi: Add new WMI dispatcher driver Mario Limonciello
2017-10-05  2:14   ` Darren Hart
2017-10-05 15:12     ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-05 17:57       ` Darren Hart
2017-10-05 19:47         ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-06 16:44           ` Darren Hart
2017-10-06 16:47             ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-04 22:48 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] platform/x86: wmi: create character devices when requested by drivers Mario Limonciello
2017-10-05  2:33   ` Darren Hart
2017-10-05  7:16   ` Greg KH
2017-10-05 14:35     ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-05 15:42       ` Greg KH
2017-10-05 15:51         ` Pali Rohár
2017-10-05 16:26           ` Greg KH [this message]
2017-10-05 17:39             ` Darren Hart
2017-10-05 18:47               ` Greg KH
2017-10-05 19:03                 ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-05 19:09                   ` Greg KH
2017-10-05 19:32                     ` Pali Rohár
2017-10-05 19:39                       ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-05 19:34                     ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-05 20:58                     ` Darren Hart
2017-10-05 20:51                   ` Darren Hart
2017-10-04 22:48 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] platform/x86: dell-smbios-wmi: introduce userspace interface Mario Limonciello
2017-10-05  7:23   ` Greg KH
2017-10-05 16:28     ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-05 16:34       ` Pali Rohár
2017-10-05 16:40       ` Greg KH
2017-10-05  7:33   ` Greg KH
2017-10-05 16:37     ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-05 13:59   ` Alan Cox
2017-10-05 14:22     ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-05 15:44       ` Greg KH
2017-10-05 15:56         ` Pali Rohár
2017-10-05 16:28           ` Greg KH
2017-10-05 16:48             ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-10 19:40               ` Alan Cox
2017-10-10 19:51                 ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-10-04 22:48 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] platform/x86: Kconfig: Set default for dell-smbios to ACPI_WMI Mario Limonciello
2017-10-05  0:09 ` [PATCH v4 00/14] Introduce support for Dell SMBIOS over WMI Darren Hart
2017-10-05  9:00   ` Andy Shevchenko

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