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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, peterx@redhat.com,
	alex@shazbot.org, richard.henderson@linaro.org,
	berrange@redhat.com, philmd@oss.qualcomm.com, philmd@mailo.com,
	david@kernel.org, clg@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	phrdina@redhat.com, jugraham@redhat.com,
	liugang24219@sangfor.com.cn, dinghui@sangfor.com.cn,
	shan.gavin@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] system/memory: Use qemu_ram_{copy, move}() in ram device region accessors
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2026 10:48:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260615104646-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA9CT6E8dhEV7Ek6ruT_o2dKUf==2V+U-1WFDOLtYbgeeQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 15, 2026 at 11:57:09AM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 at 11:03, Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > All ram device regions were turned to be indirectly accessible by commit
> > 4a2e242bbb ("memory: Don't use memcpy for ram_device regions"). This leads
> > to guest hang on attempt to build 'cuda-samples' as reported by Julia. The
> > guest is started by the following command lines, with GH100 GPU card passed
> > from the host.
> 
> > diff --git a/include/system/memory.h b/include/system/memory.h
> > index 1417132f6d..5878727d09 100644
> > --- a/include/system/memory.h
> > +++ b/include/system/memory.h
> > @@ -2897,6 +2897,8 @@ void address_space_register_map_client(AddressSpace *as, QEMUBH *bh);
> >  void address_space_unregister_map_client(AddressSpace *as, QEMUBH *bh);
> >
> >  /* Internal functions, part of the implementation of address_space_read.  */
> > +void qemu_ram_copy(void *dest, const void *src, size_t n);
> > +void qemu_ram_move(void *dest, const void *src, size_t n);
> 
> New function prototypes in include headers need documentation comments.
> 
> In particular for these, it's really important that we clearly say
> what semantics we are attempting to provide with them, so that
> (a) when we're reviewing or later updating the implementation we
> know what we are trying to provide
> (b) when we're looking at the callsites we know what the function
> is guaranteeing to us and what it is not, and thus whether it's
> OK to use it or we need something els.
> 
> > +#if defined(__i386__) || defined(__x86_64__)
> > +#define HOST_UNALIGNED_MMIO_OK 1
> > +#else
> > +#define HOST_UNALIGNED_MMIO_OK 0
> > +#endif
> 
> We need to do something better than this. We can't
> just say "oh, we trust that on x86 this works": it is
> neither actually true that the compiler guarantees it even
> on x86, nor is it the case that only x86 can do unaligned
> accesses to normal RAM.
> 
> thanks
> -- PMM

Why normal RAM? It explicitly says MMIO.
x86 seems to be the only arch that can do unaligned MMIO?



  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-15 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-15 10:01 [PATCH v2 0/2] system/memory: Make ram device region directly accessible Gavin Shan
2026-06-15 10:01 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] system/memory: Use qemu_ram_{copy, move}() in ram device region accessors Gavin Shan
2026-06-15 10:57   ` Peter Maydell
2026-06-15 14:48     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2026-06-15 14:56     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-15 15:12       ` Peter Maydell
2026-06-15 19:24         ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-15 19:42           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-15 21:31             ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-16  4:22               ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-16  4:36                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-16  4:23               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-16  4:48                 ` Richard Henderson
2026-06-16  4:49                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-16  4:55                     ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-16  5:17                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-16  5:21                         ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-16  5:32                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-16  4:59                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-16  5:07                     ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-16  5:25                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-15 19:52         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-15 15:17   ` Richard Henderson
2026-06-15 16:33     ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-15 17:03       ` Richard Henderson
2026-06-15 18:09         ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-15 18:33           ` Richard Henderson
2026-06-15 19:40           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-16  4:18             ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-15 16:35     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-15 16:37       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-15 17:05       ` Richard Henderson
2026-06-15 10:01 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] system/memory: Make ram device region directly accessible Gavin Shan

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