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From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-arm@nongnu.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] tests/device-introspect: Test devices with all machines, not only with "none"
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 21:13:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4bba0be5-a52c-48ad-3df4-4e9be3624dc0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180507182126.GC25013@localhost.localdomain>

On 07.05.2018 20:21, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 06:50:35PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 08:31:58AM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>>> Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 05:20:25PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
>>>>>> On 26.04.2018 13:45, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>>>>>> Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com> writes:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>> @@ -260,6 +263,26 @@ static void test_abstract_interfaces(void)
>>>>>>>>      qtest_end();
>>>>>>>>  }
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> +static void add_machine_test_case(const char *mname)
>>>>>>>> +{
>>>>>>>> +    char *path, *args;
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +    /* Ignore blacklisted machines */
>>>>>>>> +    if (g_str_equal("xenfv", mname) || g_str_equal("xenpv", mname)) {
>>>>>>>> +        return;
>>>>>>>> +    }
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +    path = g_strdup_printf("device/introspect/concrete-defaults-%s", mname);
>>>>>>>> +    args = g_strdup_printf("-machine %s", mname);
>>>>>>>> +    qtest_add_data_func(path, args, test_device_intro_concrete);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This runs test_device_intro_concrete() with "-machine M" for all machine
>>>>>>> types M, in SPEED=slow mode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +    g_free(path);
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +    path = g_strdup_printf("device/introspect/concrete-nodefaults-%s", mname);
>>>>>>>> +    args = g_strdup_printf("-nodefaults -machine %s", mname);
>>>>>>>> +    qtest_add_data_func(path, args, test_device_intro_concrete);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This runs test_device_intro_concrete() with "-nodefaults -machine M" for
>>>>>>> all machine types M, in SPEED=slow mode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has "without -nodefaults" exposed additional bugs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After testing this with all machines, I had to discover that
>>>>>> "-nodefaults" does not work so easily: A lot of the embedded machines
>>>>>> (especially the ARM machines) simply refuse to work with "-nodefaults"
>>>>>> and exit immediately instead. E.g.:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $ arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm -nodefaults -nographic -M n810,accel=qtest
>>>>>> qemu-system-arm: missing SecureDigital device
>>>>
>>>> These are all bugs.  --nodefaults is supposed to suppress *optional*
>>>> devices, not mandatory ones.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I understand the requirements.  What exactly is the
>>> definition of "mandatory"?
>>>
>>> A machine created by "qemu-system-x86_64 -machine pc -nodefaults"
>>> is useless because it has no any device to boot from.  How is
>>> that different from a n810 machine not booting because there's no
>>> SD device?
>>
>> I propose:
>>
>> * Stuff that's required for QEMU to run is not suppressed by -nodefaults
>>
>> * Stuff that a real machine has soldered on is also not suppressed
>>
>> * Stuff that can be pulled out of a real machine may be suppressed, even
>>   when that means the guest won't run
> 
> Makes sense to me.  It looks like the only obstacle for
> tests/device-introspect and device-crash-test is the first rule.
> "Guest won't boot" isn't a problem, but "QEMU won't run" is.
> 
> The first rule is easily testable, too: running
> "$QEMU -machine $MACHINE -nodefaults" and not having a working
> QMP monitor should be reported as a bug by automated tests.

You mean with "-accel qtest" or without? With "-accel qtest" we should
pretty soon be fine, after Peter's current PULL request has been merged
(which contains a patch from me for fixing these SD card problems with
ARM machines).
Without "-accel qtest", things are not that easy, unfortunately. Lots of
boards require "-kernel" or "-bios" and refuse to work without. So you
can hardly test "-nodefaults" automatically in the normal tcg mode. (But
maybe all boards should allow to start QEMU in case you've at least also
specified "-S" ? ... in that case we've got plenty of work for
BiteSizeTasks ;-) )

 Thomas

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-07 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-19  9:39 [Qemu-arm] [RFC PATCH] tests/device-introspect: Test devices with all machines, not only with "none" Thomas Huth
2018-03-19 20:37 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-17 12:12 ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2018-04-17 12:52   ` Peter Maydell
2018-04-17 13:15     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-04-26 10:24   ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-26 11:54     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-04-26 15:27       ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-27  0:34       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-27  3:45         ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-27  6:06       ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] qom-test (was: [RFC PATCH] tests/device-introspect: Test devices with all machines, not only with "none") Thomas Huth
2018-04-27  6:29         ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] qom-test Markus Armbruster
2018-04-27 10:20         ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] qom-test (was: [RFC PATCH] tests/device-introspect: Test devices with all machines, not only with "none") Peter Maydell
2018-04-27 10:24           ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-arm] qom-test Thomas Huth
2018-04-27 16:30             ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] qom-test Markus Armbruster
2018-04-27 16:36               ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-ppc] " Thomas Huth
2018-04-26 11:45 ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] tests/device-introspect: Test devices with all machines, not only with "none" Markus Armbruster
2018-04-26 15:20   ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-27  0:32     ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-27  3:52       ` [Qemu-arm] " Thomas Huth
2018-04-27  6:31       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-04-27  7:31         ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-27  8:05           ` Markus Armbruster
2018-05-07 13:53         ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-05-07 16:50           ` [Qemu-arm] " Markus Armbruster
2018-05-07 17:02             ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-07 17:04             ` Peter Maydell
2018-05-07 18:21             ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-05-07 19:13               ` Thomas Huth [this message]
2018-05-07 19:32                 ` [Qemu-arm] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-05-08  5:33                   ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] Running QEMU without default devices / kernel / bios (was: Test devices with all machines, not only with "none") Thomas Huth
2018-05-08 10:47                     ` [Qemu-devel] Running QEMU without default devices / kernel / bios Thomas Huth
2018-05-08 16:40                     ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] Running QEMU without default devices / kernel / bios (was: Test devices with all machines, not only with "none") Eduardo Habkost
2018-05-09  7:41                       ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-ppc] [Qemu-devel] Running QEMU without default devices / kernel / bios Thomas Huth
2018-05-09 11:36                         ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Markus Armbruster
2018-05-08  5:41                   ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] tests/device-introspect: Test devices with all machines, not only with "none" Markus Armbruster

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