From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org, ehabkost@redhat.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, agraf@suse.de, qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, dgibson@redhat.com, imammedo@redhat.com,
david@gibson.dropbear.id.au
Subject: Re: [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 06/16] vl: move smp parsing to machine pre_init
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:53:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1f094e3-c41b-88d3-9bf2-91b334d9513a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160614113904.2u5qvf7kasv5hact@hawk.localdomain>
On 14/06/2016 13:39, Andrew Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:17:49AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 13/06/2016 22:35, Andrew Jones wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 07:04:01PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>> On 10/06/2016 19:40, Andrew Jones wrote:
>> They should just not specify it and get a default of 1. ;)
>
> Yeah, threads, the only one we should never calculate, could be
> optional. If not specified, defaulting to 1 makes perfect sense.
> But, threads=0, which is weird, but in a way specifying that it's
> not specified, also makes some sense.
If it's weird, let's make it invalid. :)
>>>> - cpus % (cores * threads) != 0
>>>
>>> Hmm. This makes sense where cpus is the number of cpu packages,
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. The point is that the
>> machine starts with an integral number of sockets.
>
> OK, s/cpus/maxcpus/ then. By using the currently online number, I
> thought you were starting to prepare for cpu packages, which are
> indivisible sets of cores and threads.
Yes, that's what I meant to do. Isn't cpus what you call
"total-online-threads" below?
> But now that I think about
> it, cpus % (cores * threads) isn't right for that either. It should
> be total-online-threads % (cores * threads) != 0
>
>> [...] you could just specify -machine cpus=16,maxcpus=32 and expect 1
>> core/socket, 1 thread/core, and 16 to 32 sockets.
>
> Or 32 cores/socket (only 16 populated), 1 thread/core
Does that make sense? How do you "populate" parts of a socket lazily? I
know it's all virtual, but... ;)
>> Though I think that we can at least agree on defaults for threads,
>> maxcpus and cpus. The only sticky point is sockets vs. cores. We can
>> make them both mandatory for now. That is: cores and sockets are
>> mandatory until we decide which one to default to 1; threads is
>> optional; cpus is mandatory if you want hotplug, otherwise it's
>> redundant; maxcpus is optional and always redundant.
>
> Agreed. I'll do the following for the next round of this series
>
> threads: 1
> cores: required
> sockets: required
> maxcpus: maxcpus ? maxcpus : sockets * cores * threads
> cpus: cpus ? cpus : maxcpus
>
> If maxcpus is input, it's redundant, but should be sanity checked.
> Maybe the user wants to use the QEMU cmdline to check their math...
Yes, all this is fine. As to the checks, here's my list:
>>> - any argument < 1
>>> - any argument > some compile-time value (1024?) to avoid overflows
>>> - cpus % (cores * threads) != 0
>>> - cpus > sockets * cores * threads
>>> - maxcpus != cores * threads * sockets
? The second, fourth and fifth are fine, and IMO the first too. What
about the "integral package" check? It needs to be disabled with some
ugly global when using -smp, but apart from that I believe it's better
to have it.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-06-14 11:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-06-10 17:40 [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 00/16] Rework SMP parameters Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 01/16] vl: smp_parse: cleanups Andrew Jones
2016-06-14 1:15 ` David Gibson
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 02/16] vl: smp: add checks for maxcpus based topologies Andrew Jones
2016-06-14 1:28 ` David Gibson
2016-06-14 6:43 ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 03/16] hw/smbios/smbios: fix number of sockets calculation Andrew Jones
2016-07-11 14:23 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 04/16] hw/core/machine: Introduce pre_init Andrew Jones
2016-06-14 1:30 ` David Gibson
2016-06-14 5:58 ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Jones
2016-07-14 20:10 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15 6:26 ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 05/16] hw/core/machine: add smp properites Andrew Jones
2016-06-14 2:00 ` David Gibson
2016-06-14 6:08 ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Jones
2016-06-15 0:37 ` David Gibson
2016-06-15 7:11 ` Andrew Jones
2016-07-14 20:18 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15 6:29 ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 06/16] vl: move smp parsing to machine pre_init Andrew Jones
2016-06-13 17:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-13 20:35 ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Jones
2016-06-14 8:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-14 11:39 ` [Qemu-arm] " Andrew Jones
2016-06-14 11:53 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2016-06-14 14:03 ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-14 14:05 ` [Qemu-arm] " Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-15 0:51 ` David Gibson
2016-06-15 7:19 ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-15 0:43 ` [Qemu-arm] " David Gibson
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 07/16] qom/cpu: make nr-cores, nr-threads real properties Andrew Jones
2016-06-11 6:54 ` [Qemu-arm] " Thomas Huth
2016-06-12 13:48 ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-14 2:12 ` David Gibson
2016-06-14 6:19 ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-15 0:56 ` David Gibson
2016-07-14 20:07 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15 6:35 ` Andrew Jones
2016-07-15 9:11 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-07-15 16:10 ` [Qemu-devel] QOM: best way for parents to pass information to children? (was Re: [PATCH RFC 07/16] qom/cpu: make nr-cores, nr-threads real properties) Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15 16:10 ` [Qemu-arm] QOM: best way for parents to pass information to children? (was Re: [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15 16:30 ` [Qemu-devel] QOM: best way for parents to pass information to children? (was " Andreas Färber
2016-07-15 16:30 ` [Qemu-arm] QOM: best way for parents to pass information to children? (was Re: [Qemu-devel] " Andreas Färber
2016-07-15 17:43 ` [Qemu-devel] QOM: best way for parents to pass information to children? (was " Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15 17:43 ` [Qemu-arm] QOM: best way for parents to pass information to children? (was Re: [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15 18:38 ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] QOM: best way for parents to pass information to children? (was " Igor Mammedov
2016-07-15 21:33 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-16 15:30 ` Andrew Jones
2016-07-19 11:54 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-18 7:23 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-07-19 11:59 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-19 12:21 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-19 13:29 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-07-19 13:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 08/16] hw/core/machine: set cpu global nr_cores, nr_threads in pre_init Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 09/16] hw/i386/pc: don't use smp_cores, smp_threads Andrew Jones
2016-07-14 20:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 10/16] hw/ppc/spapr: " Andrew Jones
2016-06-14 3:03 ` David Gibson
2016-06-14 6:23 ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Jones
2016-06-15 0:59 ` David Gibson
2016-06-15 7:34 ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 11/16] target-ppc: don't use smp_threads Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 12/16] hw/arm/virt: rename *.smp_cpus to *.cpus Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 13/16] hw/arm/virt: don't use smp_cpus, max_cpus Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 14/16] hw/arm/virt: stash cpu topo info in VirtGuestInfo Andrew Jones
2016-07-14 20:43 ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15 6:40 ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 15/16] smbios: don't use smp_cores, smp_threads Andrew Jones
2016-07-14 20:51 ` [Qemu-arm] " Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15 6:45 ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 16/16] sysemu/cpus: bye, bye " Andrew Jones
2016-06-11 6:42 ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 00/16] Rework SMP parameters Thomas Huth
2016-06-12 13:58 ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-12 14:03 ` Andrew Jones
2016-07-14 9:16 ` Andrew Jones
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