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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org, ehabkost@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, agraf@suse.de, qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, dgibson@redhat.com, imammedo@redhat.com,
	david@gibson.dropbear.id.au
Subject: Re: [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 06/16] vl: move smp parsing to machine pre_init
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:53:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1f094e3-c41b-88d3-9bf2-91b334d9513a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160614113904.2u5qvf7kasv5hact@hawk.localdomain>



On 14/06/2016 13:39, Andrew Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:17:49AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 13/06/2016 22:35, Andrew Jones wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 07:04:01PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>> On 10/06/2016 19:40, Andrew Jones wrote:
>> They should just not specify it and get a default of 1. ;)
> 
> Yeah, threads, the only one we should never calculate, could be
> optional. If not specified, defaulting to 1 makes perfect sense.
> But, threads=0, which is weird, but in a way specifying that it's
> not specified, also makes some sense.

If it's weird, let's make it invalid. :)

>>>> - cpus % (cores * threads) != 0
>>>
>>> Hmm. This makes sense where cpus is the number of cpu packages,
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand what you mean here.  The point is that the
>> machine starts with an integral number of sockets.
> 
> OK, s/cpus/maxcpus/ then. By using the currently online number, I
> thought you were starting to prepare for cpu packages, which are
> indivisible sets of cores and threads.

Yes, that's what I meant to do.  Isn't cpus what you call
"total-online-threads" below?

> But now that I think about
> it, cpus % (cores * threads) isn't right for that either. It should
> be total-online-threads % (cores * threads) != 0
> 
>> [...] you could just specify -machine cpus=16,maxcpus=32 and expect 1
>> core/socket, 1 thread/core, and 16 to 32 sockets.
> 
> Or 32 cores/socket (only 16 populated), 1 thread/core

Does that make sense?  How do you "populate" parts of a socket lazily? I
know it's all virtual, but... ;)

>> Though I think that we can at least agree on defaults for threads,
>> maxcpus and cpus.  The only sticky point is sockets vs. cores.  We can
>> make them both mandatory for now.  That is: cores and sockets are
>> mandatory until we decide which one to default to 1; threads is
>> optional; cpus is mandatory if you want hotplug, otherwise it's
>> redundant; maxcpus is optional and always redundant.
> 
> Agreed. I'll do the following for the next round of this series
> 
>  threads: 1
>  cores:   required
>  sockets: required
>  maxcpus: maxcpus ? maxcpus : sockets * cores * threads
>  cpus:    cpus ? cpus : maxcpus
> 
> If maxcpus is input, it's redundant, but should be sanity checked.
> Maybe the user wants to use the QEMU cmdline to check their math...

Yes, all this is fine.  As to the checks, here's my list:

>>> - any argument < 1
>>> - any argument > some compile-time value (1024?) to avoid overflows
>>> - cpus % (cores * threads) != 0
>>> - cpus > sockets * cores * threads
>>> - maxcpus != cores * threads * sockets

?  The second, fourth and fifth are fine, and IMO the first too.  What
about the "integral package" check?   It needs to be disabled with some
ugly global when using -smp, but apart from that I believe it's better
to have it.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-14 11:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-10 17:40 [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 00/16] Rework SMP parameters Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 01/16] vl: smp_parse: cleanups Andrew Jones
2016-06-14  1:15   ` David Gibson
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 02/16] vl: smp: add checks for maxcpus based topologies Andrew Jones
2016-06-14  1:28   ` David Gibson
2016-06-14  6:43     ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 03/16] hw/smbios/smbios: fix number of sockets calculation Andrew Jones
2016-07-11 14:23   ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 04/16] hw/core/machine: Introduce pre_init Andrew Jones
2016-06-14  1:30   ` David Gibson
2016-06-14  5:58     ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Jones
2016-07-14 20:10       ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15  6:26         ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 05/16] hw/core/machine: add smp properites Andrew Jones
2016-06-14  2:00   ` David Gibson
2016-06-14  6:08     ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Jones
2016-06-15  0:37       ` David Gibson
2016-06-15  7:11         ` Andrew Jones
2016-07-14 20:18           ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15  6:29             ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 06/16] vl: move smp parsing to machine pre_init Andrew Jones
2016-06-13 17:04   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-13 20:35     ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Jones
2016-06-14  8:17       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-14 11:39         ` [Qemu-arm] " Andrew Jones
2016-06-14 11:53           ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2016-06-14 14:03             ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-14 14:05               ` [Qemu-arm] " Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-15  0:51               ` David Gibson
2016-06-15  7:19                 ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-15  0:43         ` [Qemu-arm] " David Gibson
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 07/16] qom/cpu: make nr-cores, nr-threads real properties Andrew Jones
2016-06-11  6:54   ` [Qemu-arm] " Thomas Huth
2016-06-12 13:48     ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-14  2:12       ` David Gibson
2016-06-14  6:19         ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-15  0:56           ` David Gibson
2016-07-14 20:07             ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15  6:35               ` Andrew Jones
2016-07-15  9:11                 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-07-15 16:10                   ` [Qemu-devel] QOM: best way for parents to pass information to children? (was Re: [PATCH RFC 07/16] qom/cpu: make nr-cores, nr-threads real properties) Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15 16:10                     ` [Qemu-arm] QOM: best way for parents to pass information to children? (was Re: [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15 16:30                     ` [Qemu-devel] QOM: best way for parents to pass information to children? (was " Andreas Färber
2016-07-15 16:30                       ` [Qemu-arm] QOM: best way for parents to pass information to children? (was Re: [Qemu-devel] " Andreas Färber
2016-07-15 17:43                       ` [Qemu-devel] QOM: best way for parents to pass information to children? (was " Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15 17:43                         ` [Qemu-arm] QOM: best way for parents to pass information to children? (was Re: [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15 18:38                         ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] QOM: best way for parents to pass information to children? (was " Igor Mammedov
2016-07-15 21:33                           ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-16 15:30                             ` Andrew Jones
2016-07-19 11:54                               ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-18  7:23                             ` Igor Mammedov
2016-07-19 11:59                               ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-19 12:21                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-19 13:29                                   ` Igor Mammedov
2016-07-19 13:39                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 08/16] hw/core/machine: set cpu global nr_cores, nr_threads in pre_init Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 09/16] hw/i386/pc: don't use smp_cores, smp_threads Andrew Jones
2016-07-14 20:33   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 10/16] hw/ppc/spapr: " Andrew Jones
2016-06-14  3:03   ` David Gibson
2016-06-14  6:23     ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Jones
2016-06-15  0:59       ` David Gibson
2016-06-15  7:34         ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 11/16] target-ppc: don't use smp_threads Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 12/16] hw/arm/virt: rename *.smp_cpus to *.cpus Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 13/16] hw/arm/virt: don't use smp_cpus, max_cpus Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 14/16] hw/arm/virt: stash cpu topo info in VirtGuestInfo Andrew Jones
2016-07-14 20:43   ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15  6:40     ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 15/16] smbios: don't use smp_cores, smp_threads Andrew Jones
2016-07-14 20:51   ` [Qemu-arm] " Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15  6:45     ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH RFC 16/16] sysemu/cpus: bye, bye " Andrew Jones
2016-06-11  6:42 ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 00/16] Rework SMP parameters Thomas Huth
2016-06-12 13:58   ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-12 14:03 ` Andrew Jones
2016-07-14  9:16 ` Andrew Jones

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