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From: "Raphael Lefevre" <taylor.lefevre@gmail.com>
To: stefboombastic@gmail.com
Cc: blauwirbel@gmail.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] TCG flow vs dyngen
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:46:13 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <000001cbb58c$221f5a00$011aa8c0@side35ya3cah0n> (raw)

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On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Stefano Bonifazi <stefboombastic@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/11/2010 03:44 PM, Blue Swirl wrote:

> 

> Hi!

> Thank you very much! Knowing exactly where I should check, in a so big

> project helped me very much!!

> Anyway after having spent more than 2 days on that code I still can't

> understand how it works the real execution:

> 

> in cpu-exec.c : cpu_exec_nocache i find:

> 

>> /* execute the generated code */

>>    next_tb = tcg_qemu_tb_exec(tb->tc_ptr);

> 

> and in cpu-exec.c : cpu_exec

> 

>> /* execute the generated code */

>> 

>>                    next_tb = tcg_qemu_tb_exec(tc_ptr);

> 

> so I thought tcg_qemu_tb_exec "function" should do the work of executing the

> translated binary in the host.

> But then I found out it is just a define in tcg.h:

> 

>> #define tcg_qemu_tb_exec(tb_ptr) ((long REGPARM (*)(void

>> *))code_gen_prologue)(tb_ptr)

> 

> and again in exec.c

> 

>> uint8_t code_gen_prologue[1024] code_gen_section;

> 

> Maybe I have some problems with that C syntax, but I really don't understand

> what happens there.. how the execution happens!

> 

> Here instead  with QEMU/TCG I understood that at runtime the target binary

> is translated into host binary (somehow) .. but then.. how can this new host

> binary be run? Shall the host code at runtime do some sort of (assembly

> speaking) branch jump to an area of memory with new host binary instructions

> .. and then jump back to the old process binary code?

 

1. As I know, the host codes translated from the target instructions exist by the format of object file, that’s why they can be executed directly.

2. I think you catch the right concept in some point of view, one part of the internal of QEMU does such jump & back works certainly.

 

> If so, can you explain me how this happens in those lines of code?

 

I only can give a rough profile, the code you listed do a simple thing:

Modify the pointer of the host code execution to point the next address that the host processor should continue to execute.

 

> I am just a student.. unluckily at university they just tell you that a cpu

> follows some sort of "fetch ->decode->execute" flow .. but then you open

> QEMU.. and wow there is a huge gap for understanding it, and no books where

> to study it! ;)

 

The QEMU is not used to simulate the every details of the processor should behave, it just try to approximate the necessary operations what a machine should be!

“fetch->decode->execute” flow only need to be concerned when you involve into the hardware design.

 

Raphaël Lefèvre


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Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-16 14:46 Raphael Lefevre [this message]
2011-01-16 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] TCG flow vs dyngen Stefano Bonifazi
2011-01-16 16:01   ` Raphaël Lefèvre
2011-01-16 16:43     ` Stefano Bonifazi
2011-01-16 18:29       ` Peter Maydell
2011-01-16 19:02         ` Stefano Bonifazi
2011-01-16 19:24           ` Peter Maydell
2011-01-24 13:20             ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Bonifazi
2011-01-16 20:50           ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Bonifazi
2011-01-16 21:08             ` Raphaël Lefèvre
2011-01-24 12:35               ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Bonifazi
2011-01-17 11:59             ` [Qemu-devel] " Lluís
2011-01-24 12:31               ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Bonifazi
2011-01-24 13:36                 ` Lluís
2011-01-24 14:00                   ` Stefano Bonifazi
2011-01-24 15:06                     ` Lluís
2011-01-24 17:23                       ` Stefano Bonifazi
2011-01-24 18:12                         ` Lluís
2011-01-16 19:16       ` [Qemu-devel] " Raphaël Lefèvre
2011-01-23 21:50     ` Rob Landley
2011-01-23 22:25       ` Stefano Bonifazi
2011-01-23 23:40         ` Rob Landley
2011-01-24 10:17           ` Stefano Bonifazi
2011-01-24 18:20             ` Rob Landley
2011-01-24 21:16               ` Stefano Bonifazi
2011-01-25  1:19                 ` Rob Landley
2011-01-25  8:53                   ` Stefano Bonifazi
2011-01-24 14:32       ` Peter Maydell
2011-01-24 14:56         ` Stefano Bonifazi
2011-01-24 15:15           ` Lluís
2011-01-24 18:02           ` Dushyant Bansal
2011-01-24 19:38             ` Stefano Bonifazi
2011-01-25  7:56               ` Dushyant Bansal
2011-01-25  9:04                 ` Stefano Bonifazi
2011-01-25  9:05                   ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-01-25  9:28                     ` Stefano Bonifazi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-12-10 21:26 Stefano Bonifazi
2010-12-11 11:02 ` Blue Swirl
2010-12-11 12:29   ` Stefano Bonifazi
2010-12-11 13:11     ` Blue Swirl
2010-12-11 14:32       ` Stefano Bonifazi
2010-12-11 14:44         ` Blue Swirl
2010-12-14 20:17           ` Stefano Bonifazi

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