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From: "Pavel Dovgalyuk" <dovgaluk@ispras.ru>
To: 'Kevin Wolf' <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: 'Pavel Dovgalyuk' <Pavel.Dovgaluk@ispras.ru>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, peter.maydell@linaro.org,
	war2jordan@live.com, mst@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
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	thomas.dullien@googlemail.com, artem.k.pisarenko@gmail.com,
	quintela@redhat.com, ciro.santilli@gmail.com, armbru@redhat.com,
	dgilbert@redhat.com, boost.lists@gmail.com,
	alex.bennee@linaro.org, rth@twiddle.net,
	crosthwaite.peter@gmail.com, mreitz@redhat.com,
	maria.klimushenkova@ispras.ru, pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 04/19] replay: don't drain/flush bdrv queue while RR is working
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 13:51:09 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <002301d4889a$9a5c0510$cf140f30$@ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181130100157.GB5106@localhost.localdomain>

> From: Kevin Wolf [mailto:kwolf@redhat.com]
> Am 30.11.2018 um 08:55 hat Pavel Dovgalyuk geschrieben:
> > > From: Kevin Wolf [mailto:kwolf@redhat.com]
> > > Am 10.10.2018 um 15:33 hat Pavel Dovgalyuk geschrieben:
> > > > In record/replay mode bdrv queue is controlled by replay mechanism.
> > > > It does not allow saving or loading the snapshots
> > > > when bdrv queue is not empty. Stopping the VM is not blocked by nonempty
> > > > queue, but flushing the queue is still impossible there,
> > > > because it may cause deadlocks in replay mode.
> > > > This patch disables bdrv_drain_all and bdrv_flush_all in
> > > > record/replay mode.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Pavel Dovgalyuk <pavel.dovgaluk@ispras.ru>
> > >
> > > Disabling bdrv_flush_all() shouldn't make a big difference in replay
> > > mode, so I agree with that.
> > >
> > > But does the bdrv_drain_all() change mean that bdrv_drain_all_begin()
> > > can return while there are still requests in flight? This sounds like
> > > something that could break some existing code, because the meaning of
> > > the function is that if it returns success, no requests are in flight
> > > any more.
> > >
> > > What would move the request forward in the replay case once it has been
> > > created? Does this also involve some user interaction? Or may we process
> > > the next event in a drain callback of blkreplay or something?
> >
> > You are right - there are some operation that can't be performed at any
> > time during the replay, because of unfinished block requests.
> >
> > One of these is creating the VM snapshot. I've added a check in another
> > patch, which prevents snapshotting while the event queue (which holds
> > the block requests) is not empty.
> >
> > There could also be other things, that will be fixed when we try to use it.
> >
> > Moving replay forward until the queue is empty is not a good idea, because
> > step-by-step debugging should be available and work without skipping the instructions.
> 
> So if the idea is that in replay mode, bdrv_drain_all_begin() is only
> called when there are no requests in flight anyway (because callers
> catch this situation earler), can we make this an assertion that the
> block device is already quiesced?

Maybe it's behavior changed in the latest version?
We observed that bdrv_drain_all hangs, when there is a block request in
the queue. Therefore we decided that stopping with non-empty queue
is better than skipping some steps.

> Skipping drain without knowing that there are no requests in flight
> feels simply wrong, and I'm almost sure it will result in bugs. On the
> other hand, if we know that no requests are in flight, there's no real
> point in skipping.

What bugs can happen?

Pavel Dovgalyuk

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-30 10:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-10 13:33 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 00/19] Fixing record/replay and adding reverse debugging Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-10-10 13:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 01/19] block: implement bdrv_snapshot_goto for blkreplay Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-10-10 13:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 02/19] replay: disable default snapshot for record/replay Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-10-10 13:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 03/19] replay: update docs for record/replay with block devices Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-10-10 13:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 04/19] replay: don't drain/flush bdrv queue while RR is working Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-11-28 15:45   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-11-30  7:55     ` Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-11-30 10:01       ` Kevin Wolf
2018-11-30 10:51         ` Pavel Dovgalyuk [this message]
2018-10-10 13:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 05/19] replay: finish record/replay before closing the disks Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-10-10 13:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 06/19] qcow2: introduce icount field for snapshots Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-11-28 14:33   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-10-10 13:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 07/19] migration: " Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-11-28 15:53   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-10-10 13:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 08/19] replay: provide and accessor for rr filename Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-10-10 13:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 09/19] replay: introduce info hmp/qmp command Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-10-10 13:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 10/19] replay: introduce breakpoint at the specified step Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-10-10 13:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 11/19] replay: implement replay-seek command to proceed to the desired step Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-10-10 13:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 12/19] replay: refine replay-time module Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-10-10 13:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 13/19] replay: flush rr queue before loading the vmstate Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-10-10 13:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 14/19] gdbstub: add reverse step support in replay mode Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-10-10 13:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 15/19] gdbstub: add reverse continue " Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-10-10 13:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 16/19] replay: describe reverse debugging in docs/replay.txt Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-10-10 13:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 17/19] replay: add BH oneshot event for block layer Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-11-28 16:01   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-11-30  8:21     ` Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-11-30 11:18       ` Kevin Wolf
2018-11-30 11:26         ` Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-10-10 13:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 18/19] replay: init rtc after enabling the replay Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-10-11 13:48   ` Artem Pisarenko
2018-10-10 13:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 19/19] replay: document development rules Pavel Dovgalyuk
2018-10-11 15:08   ` Artem Pisarenko
2018-10-10 15:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 00/19] Fixing record/replay and adding reverse debugging Aleksandr Bezzubikov
2018-10-15  8:46 ` Pavel Dovgalyuk

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