From: Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtio-fs@redhat.com,
"Eugenio Pérez" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
"Anton Kuchin" <antonkuchin@yandex-team.ru>
Subject: Re: [Virtio-fs] (no subject)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 09:48:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <00272da3-0a48-5544-6ba8-5dfde00be241@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231005131352-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
On 05.10.23 19:15, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 05, 2023 at 01:08:52PM -0400, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 02:58:57PM +0200, Hanna Czenczek wrote:
>>> There is no clearly defined purpose for the virtio status byte in
>>> vhost-user: For resetting, we already have RESET_DEVICE; and for virtio
>>> feature negotiation, we have [GS]ET_FEATURES. With the REPLY_ACK
>>> protocol extension, it is possible for SET_FEATURES to return errors
>>> (SET_PROTOCOL_FEATURES may be called before SET_FEATURES).
>>>
>>> As for implementations, SET_STATUS is not widely implemented. dpdk does
>>> implement it, but only uses it to signal feature negotiation failure.
>>> While it does log reset requests (SET_STATUS 0) as such, it effectively
>>> ignores them, in contrast to RESET_OWNER (which is deprecated, and today
>>> means the same thing as RESET_DEVICE).
>>>
>>> While qemu superficially has support for [GS]ET_STATUS, it does not
>>> forward the guest-set status byte, but instead just makes it up
>>> internally, and actually completely ignores what the back-end returns,
>>> only using it as the template for a subsequent SET_STATUS to add single
>>> bits to it. Notably, after setting FEATURES_OK, it never reads it back
>>> to see whether the flag is still set, which is the only way in which
>>> dpdk uses the status byte.
>>>
>>> As-is, no front-end or back-end can rely on the other side handling this
>>> field in a useful manner, and it also provides no practical use over
>>> other mechanisms the vhost-user protocol has, which are more clearly
>>> defined. Deprecate it.
>>>
>>> Suggested-by: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com>
>>> ---
>>> docs/interop/vhost-user.rst | 28 +++++++++++++++++++++-------
>>> 1 file changed, 21 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
>> Reviewed-by: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
>
> SET_STATUS is the only way to signal failure to acknowledge FEATURES_OK.
> The fact current backends never check errors does not mean they never
> will. So no, not applying this.
Can this not be done with REPLY_ACK? I.e., with the following message
order:
1. GET_FEATURES to find out whether VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES is
present
2. GET_PROTOCOL_FEATURES to hopefully get VHOST_USER_PROTOCOL_F_REPLY_ACK
3. SET_PROTOCOL_FEATURES to set VHOST_USER_PROTOCOL_F_REPLY_ACK
4. SET_FEATURES with need_reply
If not, the problem is that qemu has sent SET_STATUS 0 for a while when
the vCPUs are stopped, which generally seems to request a device reset.
If we don’t state at least that SET_STATUS 0 is to be ignored, back-ends
that will implement SET_STATUS later may break with at least these qemu
versions. But documenting that a particular use of the status byte is
to be ignored would be really strange.
Hanna
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-06 7:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-04 12:58 [PATCH v4 0/8] vhost-user: Back-end state migration Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-04 12:58 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] vhost-user.rst: Deprecate [GS]ET_STATUS Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-05 17:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-10-05 17:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-06 7:48 ` Hanna Czenczek [this message]
2023-10-06 8:45 ` [Virtio-fs] (no subject) Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-06 9:15 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-06 9:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-06 9:47 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-06 10:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-06 11:42 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-06 15:17 ` Alex Bennée
2023-10-06 15:47 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-06 20:49 ` Alex Bennée
2023-10-09 8:07 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-07 2:22 ` Yajun Wu
2023-10-09 8:21 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-09 9:07 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-09 9:13 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-10 4:00 ` Yajun Wu
2023-10-10 8:18 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-10 10:36 ` Alex Bennée
2023-10-10 13:18 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-10 14:35 ` Alex Bennée
2023-10-13 18:02 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-17 7:49 ` Viresh Kumar
2023-10-17 8:13 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-09 10:28 ` German Maglione
2023-10-10 2:56 ` Yajun Wu
2023-10-10 10:04 ` German Maglione
2023-10-04 12:58 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] vhost-user.rst: Improve [GS]ET_VRING_BASE doc Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-05 17:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-10-06 7:53 ` [Virtio-fs] " Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-06 8:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-06 13:55 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-06 13:58 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-07 21:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-07 21:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-04 12:58 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] vhost-user.rst: Clarify enabling/disabling vrings Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-05 17:43 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-10-18 12:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18 16:17 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-04 12:59 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] vhost-user.rst: Introduce suspended state Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-05 17:44 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-10-04 12:59 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] vhost-user.rst: Migrating back-end-internal state Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-05 17:46 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-10-04 12:59 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] vhost-user: Interface for migration state transfer Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-05 17:46 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-10-04 12:59 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] vhost: Add high-level state save/load functions Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-05 17:46 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-10-04 12:59 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] vhost-user-fs: Implement internal migration Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-05 17:46 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-10-05 17:48 ` [PATCH v4 0/8] vhost-user: Back-end state migration Stefan Hajnoczi
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