From: Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com>
To: "Phil Dennis-Jordan" <lists@philjordan.eu>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Volker Rümelin" <vr_qemu@t-online.de>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
"Phil Dennis-Jordan" <phil@philjordan.eu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH-for-9.2] ui/cocoa: Temporarily ignore annoying deprecated declaration warnings
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 16:07:15 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0082edc1-e296-48d5-a44d-7a6531dfe211@daynix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGCz3vtkJS0Fgx_+1qJbUkYAxJ3WPvhEBxJ7P4T1a-g34KV1RA@mail.gmail.com>
On 2024/11/21 23:35, Phil Dennis-Jordan wrote:
> As we're talking about macOS-only code I'd perhaps have used '#pragma
> clang diagnostic' rather than the GCC versions, but clang seems to
> understand these just fine too. (Plus, we very much intend for these to
> be genuinely temporary.)
>
> Reviewed-by: Phil Dennis-Jordan <phil@philjordan.eu
> <mailto:phil@philjordan.eu>>
> Tested-by: Phil Dennis-Jordan <phil@philjordan.eu
> <mailto:phil@philjordan.eu>>
>
> I'll try to find some spare cycles to come up with a clean solution to
> the deprecation issue towards the end of the year. I need to research
> the available alternative APIs for another project anyway.
>
> I think part of the reason for the deprecation is that most modern Macs
> (as with other modern laptop and desktop computers) actually use a
> variable display frame rate, so the concept of a "native" frame rate is
> no longer well-defined. In an ideal world the frame rate would be
> something that's negotiable between the host UI and the virtual hardware.
>
> For example, the macOS PV Graphics I've been working on integrating
> would actually prefer a "push" arrangement where the guest/PV hardware
> notify the host when the next frame is ready, rather than expecting a
> fixed-rate frame refresh interrupt or similar. So when using that there
> would actually not be any need for the display-linked timer at all if
> the UI is happy with the hw calling dpy_gfx_update_full()/
> graphic_hw_update_done() proactively whenever it has a new frame
> available. I'm not sure what the story is for other display adapters in
> QEMU, but I can do a survey of that.
Regarding dpy_gfx_update_full()/graphic_hw_update_done(), it's probably
better to stay the "pull" semantics. With the pull semantics, we can
drop frames when the UI cannot update the output in timely manner
because it's in the power-saving mode or it's just too busy. Adapting to
variable refresh rate will be achieved by using a platform's mechanism
that fires a refresh event at proper timing.
There is also another function we need to care: dpy_set_ui_info(). This
function updates the "mode" of the emulated display to tell the refresh
rate to the guest. A mode is expected to be somewhat stable so it cannot
properly represent the variable refresh rate. A safe option is to expose
the maximum refresh rate via the mode.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-27 7:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-21 13:19 [PATCH-for-9.2] ui/cocoa: Temporarily ignore annoying deprecated declaration warnings Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-11-21 14:35 ` Phil Dennis-Jordan
2024-11-27 7:07 ` Akihiko Odaki [this message]
2024-12-03 15:39 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
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