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From: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-block@nongnu.org, Jeff Cody <jcody@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	jtc@redhat.com, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/9] jobs: canonize Error object
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 12:09:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00f1f443-8425-56fa-543e-753868e8b697@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sh2q4qnq.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>



On 09/03/2018 10:11 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> writes:
> 
>> Am 01.09.2018 um 09:54 hat Markus Armbruster geschrieben:
>>> John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 08/31/2018 02:08 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>>>> Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08/29/2018 08:57 PM, John Snow wrote:
>>>>>>> Jobs presently use both an Error object in the case of the create job,
>>>>>>> and char strings in the case of generic errors elsewhere.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unify the two paths as just j->err, and remove the extra argument from
>>>>>>> job_completed. The integer error code for job_completed is kept for now,
>>>>>>> to be removed shortly in a separate patch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +++ b/job.c
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @@ -666,8 +666,8 @@ static void job_update_rc(Job *job)
>>>>>>>           job->ret = -ECANCELED;
>>>>>>>       }
>>>>>>>       if (job->ret) {
>>>>>>> -        if (!job->error) {
>>>>>>> -            job->error = g_strdup(strerror(-job->ret));
>>>>>>> +        if (!job->err) {
>>>>>>> +            error_setg(&job->err, "%s", g_strdup(strerror(-job->ret)));
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Memleak. Drop the g_strdup(), and just directly pass strerror()
>>>>>> results to error_setg().  (I guess we can't quite use
>>>>>> error_setg_errno() unless we add additional text beyond the strerror()
>>>>>> results).
>>>>>
>>>>> Adding such text might well be an improvement.  I'm not telling you to
>>>>> do so (not having looked at the context myself), just to think about it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In this case, and I agree with Kevin who suggested it; we ought to be
>>>> moving away from the retcode in general and using first-class error
>>>> objects for all of our jobs anyway.
>>>>
>>>> In this case, the job has failed with a retcode and we wish to give the
>>>> user some hope of understanding why, but at this point in the code all
>>>> we know is what the strerror can tell us, so a generic prefix like "The
>>>> job failed" is not helpful because it will already be clear by events
>>>> and other things that the job failed.
>>>>
>>>> The only text I can think of that would be useful is: "The job failed
>>>> and didn't give a more specific error message. Please email
>>>> qemu-devel@nongnu.org and harass the authors until they fix it. Anyway,
>>>> nice chatting to you, the generic error message is: %s"
>>>
>>> That might well be an improvement ;)
>>>
>>> Since I don't have a realistic example ready, I'm making up a contrieved
>>> one:
>>>
>>> --> {"execute": "job-frobnicate"}
>>> <-- {"error": {"class": "GenericError", "desc": "Device or resource busy"}}
>>>
>>> Would a reply
>>>
>>> <-- {"error": {"class": "GenericError", "desc": "Job failed: Device or resource busy"}}
>>>
>>> be better, worse, or a wash?
>>>
>>> If it's a wash, maintainability breaks the tie.  So let's have a look at
>>> the code.  It's either
>>>
>>>             error_setg(&job->err, "%s", strerror(-job->ret));
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>>             error_setg_errno(&job->err, -job->ret, "Job failed");
>>>
>>> I'd prefer the latter, because it's the common way to put an errno code
>>> into an Error object, and it lets me grep for the message more easily.
>>
>> Basically, if I call "job-frobnicate", I don't want an error message to
>> tell me "job-frobnicate failed: foo". I already know that I called
>> "job-frobnicate", so the actually useful message is only "foo".
>>
>> A prefix like "job-frobnicate failed" should be added when it's one of
>> multiple possible error sources. For example, if a higher level monitor
>> command internally involves job-frobnicate, but also three other
>> operations, this is the place where the prefix should be added to any
>> error message returned by job-frobnicate so that we can distinguish
>> which part of the operation failed.
> 
> John's point is that the error message is bad no matter what.
> 
> My point is that if it's bad no matter what, we can just as well emit it
> the usual way, with error_setg_errno(), rather than playing games with
> strerror().
> 

Not worth it, in my opinion. This way keeps visible behavior consistent
until we fully eradicate the retcode.

--js

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-04 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-30  1:57 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/9] jobs: Job Exit Refactoring Pt 1 John Snow
2018-08-30  1:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/9] jobs: change start callback to run callback John Snow
2018-08-31 13:27   ` Jeff Cody
2018-08-30  1:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/9] jobs: canonize Error object John Snow
2018-08-30 19:58   ` Eric Blake
2018-08-31  6:08     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-08-31 15:23       ` John Snow
2018-09-01  7:54         ` Markus Armbruster
2018-09-03 12:22           ` Kevin Wolf
2018-09-03 14:11             ` Markus Armbruster
2018-09-04 16:09               ` John Snow [this message]
2018-08-30  1:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 3/9] jobs: add exit shim John Snow
2018-08-31 13:48   ` Jeff Cody
2018-08-30  1:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 4/9] block/commit: utilize job_exit shim John Snow
2018-08-31 13:58   ` Jeff Cody
2018-08-30  1:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 5/9] block/mirror: " John Snow
2018-08-31 13:23   ` Max Reitz
2018-08-31 14:09   ` Jeff Cody
2018-08-30  1:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 6/9] jobs: " John Snow
2018-08-30  1:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 7/9] block/backup: make function variables consistently named John Snow
2018-08-30  1:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 8/9] jobs: remove ret argument to job_completed; privatize it John Snow
2018-08-31 13:25   ` Max Reitz
2018-08-30  1:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 9/9] jobs: remove job_defer_to_main_loop John Snow
2018-08-31 14:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/9] jobs: Job Exit Refactoring Pt 1 Max Reitz

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