From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: lvivier@redhat.com, thuth@redhat.com, pkrempa@redhat.com,
berrange@redhat.com, ehabkost@redhat.com, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
libvir-list@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com,
mreitz@redhat.com, kraxel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] qapi/qom: QAPIfy object-add
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:58:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01d32c8c-5023-6323-bed8-ede08f6ac8a3@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201130122538.27674-1-kwolf@redhat.com>
On 30/11/20 13:25, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> This series adds a QAPI type for the properties of all user creatable
> QOM types and finally makes QMP object-add use the new ObjectOptions
> union so that QAPI introspection can be used for user creatable objects.
>
> After this series, there is least one obvious next step that needs to be
> done: Change HMP and all of the command line parser to use
> ObjectOptions, too, so that the QAPI schema is consistently enforced in
> all external interfaces. I am planning to send another series to address
> this.
>
> In a third step, we can try to start deduplicating and integrating things
> better between QAPI and the QOM implementation, e.g. by generating parts
> of the QOM boilerplate from the QAPI schema.
With this series it's basically pointless to have QOM properties at all.
Instead, you are basically having half of QEMU's backend data model
into a single struct.
So the question is, are we okay with shoveling half of QEMU's backend
data model into a single struct? If so, there are important consequences.
1) QOM basically does not need properties anymore except for devices and
machines (accelerators could be converted to QAPI as well). All
user-creatable objects can be changed to something like chardev's "get a
struct and use it fill in the fields", and only leave properties to
devices and machines.
2) User-creatable objects can have a much more flexible schema. This
means there's no reason to have block device creation as its own command
and struct for example.
The problem with this series is that you are fine with deduplicating
things as a third step, but you cannot be sure that such deduplication
is possible at all. So while I don't have any problems in principle
with the ObjectOptions concept, I don't think it should be committed
without a clear idea of how to do the third step.
In the meanwhile, of course I have no problem with deprecating the
opened and loaded properties.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-30 15:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-30 12:25 [PATCH 00/18] qapi/qom: QAPIfy object-add Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 01/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for iothread Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 15:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 15:54 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 02/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for authz-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 03/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for cryptodev-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 04/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for dbus-vmstate Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 05/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for memory-backend-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 06/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for rng-*, deprecate 'opened' Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 07/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for throttle-group Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 08/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for secret*, deprecate 'loaded' Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 09/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for tls-*, " Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 10/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for can-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 11/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for colo-compare Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 12/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for filter-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 13/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for pr-manager-helper Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 14/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for sev-guest Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 15/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for input-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 16/18] tests: Drop 'props' from object-add calls Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 17/18] qapi/qom: Drop deprecated 'props' from object-add Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 18/18] qapi/qom: QAPIfy object-add Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 14:58 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2020-11-30 15:30 ` [PATCH 00/18] " Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-30 16:13 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 16:52 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-30 16:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01 8:36 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-11-30 15:46 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 16:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 18:10 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 19:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01 16:20 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-01 17:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01 18:28 ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-01 19:35 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-01 21:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01 22:08 ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02 9:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-02 10:38 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-02 12:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-02 12:51 ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02 13:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-02 13:54 ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02 15:17 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-02 16:05 ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02 17:35 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-02 19:45 ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-03 6:46 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-12-03 14:58 ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-03 11:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-03 15:15 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-03 16:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-03 17:43 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-03 18:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-03 17:52 ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-03 18:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-03 18:19 ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02 10:27 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-02 12:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 18:58 ` Peter Krempa
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