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Tue, 30 Jun 2020 12:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: tap: check if the file descriptor is valid before using it To: =?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_P=2e_Berrang=c3=a9?= References: <20200625084835.GB1009994@redhat.com> <541b40c5-ee72-d37d-1c30-664775812d1b@redhat.com> <929203d2-20d2-7caf-e487-6bfe5b851974@redhat.com> <20200630092318.GE1370404@redhat.com> <20200630093148.GF1370404@redhat.com> <247f4aa8-1846-c5ec-4fe3-1d344979ad52@redhat.com> <7a110325-0123-53da-604d-8a9374903782@redhat.com> <20200630110310.GG1370404@redhat.com> From: Laurent Vivier Autocrypt: addr=lvivier@redhat.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFYFJhkBEAC2me7w2+RizYOKZM+vZCx69GTewOwqzHrrHSG07MUAxJ6AY29/+HYf6EY2 WoeuLWDmXE7A3oJoIsRecD6BXHTb0OYS20lS608anr3B0xn5g0BX7es9Mw+hV/pL+63EOCVm SUVTEQwbGQN62guOKnJJJfphbbv82glIC/Ei4Ky8BwZkUuXd7d5NFJKC9/GDrbWdj75cDNQx UZ9XXbXEKY9MHX83Uy7JFoiFDMOVHn55HnncflUncO0zDzY7CxFeQFwYRbsCXOUL9yBtqLer Ky8/yjBskIlNrp0uQSt9LMoMsdSjYLYhvk1StsNPg74+s4u0Q6z45+l8RAsgLw5OLtTa+ePM JyS7OIGNYxAX6eZk1+91a6tnqfyPcMbduxyBaYXn94HUG162BeuyBkbNoIDkB7pCByed1A7q q9/FbuTDwgVGVLYthYSfTtN0Y60OgNkWCMtFwKxRaXt1WFA5ceqinN/XkgA+vf2Ch72zBkJL RBIhfOPFv5f2Hkkj0MvsUXpOWaOjatiu0fpPo6Hw14UEpywke1zN4NKubApQOlNKZZC4hu6/ 8pv2t4HRi7s0K88jQYBRPObjrN5+owtI51xMaYzvPitHQ2053LmgsOdN9EKOqZeHAYG2SmRW LOxYWKX14YkZI5j/TXfKlTpwSMvXho+efN4kgFvFmP6WT+tPnwARAQABtCNMYXVyZW50IFZp dmllciA8bHZpdmllckByZWRoYXQuY29tPokCOAQTAQIAIgUCVgVQgAIbAwYLCQgHAwIGFQgC CQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8ww4vT8vvjwpgg//fSGy0Rs/t8cPFuzoY1cex4limJQfReLr SJXCANg9NOWy/bFK5wunj+h/RCFxIFhZcyXveurkBwYikDPUrBoBRoOJY/BHK0iZo7/WQkur 6H5losVZtrotmKOGnP/lJYZ3H6OWvXzdz8LL5hb3TvGOP68K8Bn8UsIaZJoeiKhaNR0sOJyI YYbgFQPWMHfVwHD/U+/gqRhD7apVysxv5by/pKDln1I5v0cRRH6hd8M8oXgKhF2+rAOL7gvh jEHSSWKUlMjC7YwwjSZmUkL+TQyE18e2XBk85X8Da3FznrLiHZFHQ/NzETYxRjnOzD7/kOVy gKD/o7asyWQVU65mh/ECrtjfhtCBSYmIIVkopoLaVJ/kEbVJQegT2P6NgERC/31kmTF69vn8 uQyW11Hk8tyubicByL3/XVBrq4jZdJW3cePNJbTNaT0d/bjMg5zCWHbMErUib2Nellnbg6bc 2HLDe0NLVPuRZhHUHM9hO/JNnHfvgiRQDh6loNOUnm9Iw2YiVgZNnT4soUehMZ7au8PwSl4I KYE4ulJ8RRiydN7fES3IZWmOPlyskp1QMQBD/w16o+lEtY6HSFEzsK3o0vuBRBVp2WKnssVH qeeV01ZHw0bvWKjxVNOksP98eJfWLfV9l9e7s6TaAeySKRRubtJ+21PRuYAxKsaueBfUE7ZT 7ze0LUxhdXJlbnQgVml2aWVyIChSZWQgSGF0KSA8bHZpdmllckByZWRoYXQuY29tPokCOAQT AQIAIgUCVgUmGQIbAwYLCQgHAwIGFQgCCQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8ww4vT8vvjxtNBAA o2xGmbXl9vJQALkj7MVlsMlgewQ1rdoZl+bZ6ythTSBsqwwtl1BUTQGA1GF2LAchRVYca5bJ lw4ai5OdZ/rc5dco2XgrRFtj1np703BzNEhGU1EFxtms/Y9YOobq/GZpck5rK8jV4osEb8oc 3xEgCm/xFwI/2DOe0/s2cHKzRkvdmKWEDhT1M+7UhtSCnloX776zCsrofYiHP2kasFyMa/5R 9J1Rt9Ax/jEAX5vFJ8+NPf68497nBfrAtLM3Xp03YJSr/LDxer44Mevhz8dFw7IMRLhnuSfr 8jP93lr6Wa8zOe3pGmFXZWpNdkV/L0HaeKwTyDKKdUDH4U7SBnE1gcDfe9x08G+oDfVhqED8 qStKCxPYxRUKIdUjGPF3f5oj7N56Q5zZaZkfxeLNTQ13LDt3wGbVHyZxzFc81B+qT8mkm74y RbeVSuviPTYjbBQ66GsUgiZZpDUyJ6s54fWqQdJf4VFwd7M/mS8WEejbSjglGHMxMGiBeRik Y0+ur5KAF7z0D1KfW1kHO9ImQ0FbEbMbTMf9u2+QOCrSWOz/rj23EwPrCQ2TSRI2fWakMJZ+ zQZvy+ei3D7lZ09I9BT/GfFkTIONgtNfDxwyMc4v4XyP0IvvZs/YZqt7j3atyTZM0S2HSaZ9 rXmQYkBt1/u691cZfvy+Tr2xZaDpFcjPkci5Ag0EVgUmGQEQALxSQRbl/QOnmssVDxWhHM5T Gxl7oLNJms2zmBpcmlrIsn8nNz0rRyxT460k2niaTwowSRK8KWVDeAW6ZAaWiYjLlTunoKwv F8vP3JyWpBz0diTxL5o+xpvy/Q6YU3BNefdq8Vy3rFsxgW7mMSrI/CxJ667y8ot5DVugeS2N yHfmZlPGE0Nsy7hlebS4liisXOrN3jFzasKyUws3VXek4V65lHwB23BVzsnFMn/bw/rPliqX Gcwl8CoJu8dSyrCcd1Ibs0/Inq9S9+t0VmWiQWfQkz4rvEeTQkp/VfgZ6z98JRW7S6l6eoph oWs0/ZyRfOm+QVSqRfFZdxdP2PlGeIFMC3fXJgygXJkFPyWkVElr76JTbtSHsGWbt6xUlYHK XWo+xf9WgtLeby3cfSkEchACrxDrQpj+Jt/JFP+q997dybkyZ5IoHWuPkn7uZGBrKIHmBunT co1+cKSuRiSCYpBIXZMHCzPgVDjk4viPbrV9NwRkmaOxVvye0vctJeWvJ6KA7NoAURplIGCq kCRwg0MmLrfoZnK/gRqVJ/f6adhU1oo6z4p2/z3PemA0C0ANatgHgBb90cd16AUxpdEQmOCm dNnNJF/3Zt3inzF+NFzHoM5Vwq6rc1JPjfC3oqRLJzqAEHBDjQFlqNR3IFCIAo4SYQRBdAHB CzkM4rWyRhuVABEBAAGJAh8EGAECAAkFAlYFJhkCGwwACgkQ8ww4vT8vvjwg9w//VQrcnVg3 TsjEybxDEUBm8dBmnKqcnTBFmxN5FFtIWlEuY8+YMiWRykd8Ln9RJ/98/ghABHz9TN8TRo2b 6WimV64FmlVn17Ri6FgFU3xNt9TTEChqAcNg88eYryKsYpFwegGpwUlaUaaGh1m9OrTzcQy+ klVfZWaVJ9Nw0keoGRGb8j4XjVpL8+2xOhXKrM1fzzb8JtAuSbuzZSQPDwQEI5CKKxp7zf76 J21YeRrEW4WDznPyVcDTa+tz++q2S/BpP4W98bXCBIuQgs2m+OflERv5c3Ojldp04/S4NEjX EYRWdiCxN7ca5iPml5gLtuvhJMSy36glU6IW9kn30IWuSoBpTkgV7rLUEhh9Ms82VWW/h2Tx L8enfx40PrfbDtWwqRID3WY8jLrjKfTdR3LW8BnUDNkG+c4FzvvGUs8AvuqxxyHbXAfDx9o/ jXfPHVRmJVhSmd+hC3mcQ+4iX5bBPBPMoDqSoLt5w9GoQQ6gDVP2ZjTWqwSRMLzNr37rJjZ1 pt0DCMMTbiYIUcrhX8eveCJtY7NGWNyxFCRkhxRuGcpwPmRVDwOl39MB3iTsRighiMnijkbL XiKoJ5CDVvX5yicNqYJPKh5MFXN1bvsBkmYiStMRbrD0HoY1kx5/VozBtc70OU0EB8Wrv9hZ D+Ofp0T3KOr1RUHvCZoLURfFhSQ= Message-ID: <0309d626-f0b6-faa6-cc90-fe0b8cbbb535@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 14:00:06 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200630110310.GG1370404@redhat.com> Content-Language: en-US X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 Authentication-Results: relay.mimecast.com; auth=pass smtp.auth=CUSA124A263 smtp.mailfrom=lvivier@redhat.com X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.139.110.120; envelope-from=lvivier@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-1.mimecast.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/06/30 03:55:26 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -30 X-Spam_score: -3.1 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Stefan Weil , Jason Wang , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster , Gerd Hoffmann , Paolo Bonzini Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" On 30/06/2020 13:03, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 12:35:46PM +0200, Laurent Vivier wrote: >> On 30/06/2020 12:03, Jason Wang wrote: >>> >>> On 2020/6/30 下午5:45, Laurent Vivier wrote: >>>> On 30/06/2020 11:31, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:23:18AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 05:21:49PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote: >>>>>>> On 2020/6/30 上午3:30, Laurent Vivier wrote: >>>>>>>> On 28/06/2020 08:31, Jason Wang wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2020/6/25 下午7:56, Laurent Vivier wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 25/06/2020 10:48, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 09:00:09PM +0200, Laurent Vivier wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> qemu_set_nonblock() checks that the file descriptor can be >>>>>>>>>>>> used and, if >>>>>>>>>>>> not, crashes QEMU. An assert() is used for that. The use of >>>>>>>>>>>> assert() is >>>>>>>>>>>> used to detect programming error and the coredump will allow >>>>>>>>>>>> to debug >>>>>>>>>>>> the problem. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But in the case of the tap device, this assert() can be >>>>>>>>>>>> triggered by >>>>>>>>>>>> a misconfiguration by the user. At startup, it's not a real >>>>>>>>>>>> problem, >>>>>>>>>>>> but it >>>>>>>>>>>> can also happen during the hot-plug of a new device, and here >>>>>>>>>>>> it's a >>>>>>>>>>>> problem because we can crash a perfectly healthy system. >>>>>>>>>>> If the user/mgmt app is not correctly passing FDs, then there's >>>>>>>>>>> a whole >>>>>>>>>>> pile of bad stuff that can happen. Checking whether the FD is >>>>>>>>>>> valid is >>>>>>>>>>> only going to catch a small subset. eg consider if fd=9 refers >>>>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>>>> FD that is associated with the root disk QEMU has open. We'll >>>>>>>>>>> fail to >>>>>>>>>>> setup the TAP device and close this FD, breaking the healthy >>>>>>>>>>> system >>>>>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying we can't check if the FD is valid, but lets be >>>>>>>>>>> clear that >>>>>>>>>>> this is not offering very much protection against a broken mgmt >>>>>>>>>>> apps >>>>>>>>>>> passing bad FDs. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I agree with you, but my only goal here is to avoid the crash in >>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>> particular case. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The punishment should fit the crime. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The user can think the netdev_del doesn't close the fd, and he >>>>>>>>>> can try >>>>>>>>>> to reuse it. Sending back an error is better than crashing his >>>>>>>>>> system. >>>>>>>>>> After that, if the system crashes, it will be for the good >>>>>>>>>> reasons, not >>>>>>>>>> because of an assert. >>>>>>>>> Yes. And on top of this we may try to validate the TAP via st_dev >>>>>>>>> through fstat[1]. >>>>>>>> I agree, but the problem I have is to know which major(st_dev) we can >>>>>>>> allow to use. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do we allow only macvtap major number? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Macvtap and tuntap. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How to know the macvtap major number at user level? >>>>>>>> [it is allocated dynamically: do we need to parse /proc/devices?] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think we can get them through fstat for /dev/net/tun and >>>>>>> /dev/macvtapX. >>>>>> Don't assume QEMU has any permission to access to these device nodes, >>>>>> only the pre-opened FDs it is given by libvirt. >>>>> Actually permissions are the least of the problem - the device nodes >>>>> won't even exist, because QEMU's almost certainly running in a private >>>>> mount namespace with a minimal /dev populated >>>>> >>>> I'm working on a solution using /proc/devices. >>> >>> >>> Similar issue with /dev. There's no guarantee that qemu can access >>> /proc/devices or it may not exist (CONFIG_PROCFS). >> >> There is a lot of things that will not work without /proc (several tools >> rely on /proc, like ps, top, lsof, mount, ...). Some information are >> only available from /proc, and if /proc is there, I think /proc/devices >> is always readable by everyone. Moreover /proc is already used by qemu >> in several places. >> >> It can also a best effort check. >> >> The problem with fstat() on /dev files is to guess the /dev/macvtapX as >> X varies (the same with /dev/tapY).. >> >>> >>>> macvtap has its own major number, but tuntap use "misc" (10) major >>>> number. >> >> Another question: it is possible to use the "fd=" parameter with macvtap >> as macvtap creates a /dev/tapY device, but how to do that with tuntap >> that does not create a /dev/tapY device? > > > I think we should step back and ask why we need to check this at all. > > IMHO, if the passed-in FD works with the syscalls that tap-linux.c > is executing, then that shows the FD is suitable for QEMU. The problem > is that many of the tap APIs don't use "Error **errp" parameters to > report errors, so we can't catch the failures. IOW, instead of checking > the FD major/minor number, we should make the existing code be better > at reporting errors, so they can be fed back to the QMP console > gracefully. The problem here is the very first operation of net_init_tap() is a qemu_set_nonblock() that has an assert() and crashes QEMU. It's why I was only checking for the validity of the file descriptor, not if it is a tap device or not. I was adding a check before this function to be sure to not assert and to report the error correctly to the QMP interface. I think it is a step in the good direction. Thanks, Laurent