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From: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 43/86] hppa: drop RAM size fixup
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 16:40:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0324de61-9999-45e5-58c8-b2c9eab3de49@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200102163518.54c36d68@redhat.com>

On 1/2/20 4:35 PM, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 15:45:55 +0100
> Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 1/2/20 3:41 PM, Igor Mammedov wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 12:31:58 +0100
>>> Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>    
>>>> On 31.12.19 16:44, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
>>>>> On 12/31/19 2:03 PM, Igor Mammedov wrote:
>>>>>> If user provided non-sense RAM size, board will complain and
>>>>>> continue running with max RAM size supported.
>>>>>> Also RAM is going to be allocated by generic code, so it won't be
>>>>>> possible for board to fix things up for user.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Make it error message and exit to force user fix CLI,
>>>>>> instead of accepting non-sense CLI values.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>     hw/hppa/machine.c | 3 ++-
>>>>>>     1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/hw/hppa/machine.c b/hw/hppa/machine.c
>>>>>> index 5d0de26..25f5afc 100644
>>>>>> --- a/hw/hppa/machine.c
>>>>>> +++ b/hw/hppa/machine.c
>>>>>> @@ -92,7 +92,8 @@ static void machine_hppa_init(MachineState *machine)
>>>>>>           /* Limit main memory. */
>>>>>>         if (ram_size > FIRMWARE_START) {
>>>>>> -        machine->ram_size = ram_size = FIRMWARE_START;
>>>>>> +        error_report("RAM size more than %d is not supported", FIRMWARE_START);
>>>>>> +        exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
>>>>>
>>>>> $ qemu-system-hppa -m 3841m
>>>>> qemu-system-hppa: invalid accelerator kvm
>>>>> qemu-system-hppa: falling back to tcg
>>>>> qemu-system-hppa: RAM size more than -268435456 is not supported
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead of using qemu_strtosz_MiB on FIRMWARE_START or unsigned format, we can simply use "RAM size more than 3840m is not supported". Is that OK with you?
>>>>
>>>> I don't really like that change.
>>>>
>>>> We currently only emulate a 32-bit system, and for those 4GB is the maximum.
>>>> So, if I start my machine with "qemu-system-hppa -m 4G", the current code
>>>> then automatically uses the maximum possible of 3841MB (which is limited by
>>>> firmware start address).
>>>> I don't expect users to know the excact 3841MB number.
>>> It's annoying to see a error where it used to work before
>>> with no matter what -m value user have used.
>>>
>>> But error message tells exact max size one could use,
>>> so user doesn't have to know max, just fix CLI with provided value.
>>>    
>>>> Even on a phyiscal machine you can only add DIMMs of sizes 2GB, 3GB or 4GB,
>>>> but not "3841MB".
>>>>
>>>> So, I think that patch is - although it's more correct - not a
>>>> benefit for the end user.
>>> Sure thing that users dislike when we do breaking changes (removing legacy CLI
>>> options, fixups or adding error checks that weren't there before).
>>> But I'd choose correctness (and consistent codebase) vs convenience.
>>> (it's no like we are hiding max from user)
>>
>> Going from 3841MB to 4GB is not a breaking change, and 4GB is correct I
> under breaking change, I've meant exit with error when it used to work with
> any values.
> 
> But the point in removing fixups to make user aware of valid input and
> make clear what's going on when someone reads the code.
> 
> QEMU code is already too complex to read, so I'd avoid supporting values
> that are not really supported by current impl. just for the sake of convenience.
> (a wrapper script could do that RAM size clamping if it is really necessary)
> 
>> think. The Raspberry Pi machines do the same (allocate more RAM than the
>> CPU is able to access, and DMA is able to use this extra RAM).
> In current impl. raspi accepts RAM upto 1Gb maps all of it and reports
> that size to the guest. QEMU doesn't mask or waste anything.
> If we where to rise limit upto 4Gb, then there should be the code that
> would inform and allow guest utilize that.

For the raspi2/3, 16MB are lost and we don't complain neither change the 
ram_size, see the bcm2835-peripherals block overmapping the ram:

$ qemu-system-aarch64 -M raspi3 -monitor stdio -S
QEMU 3.1.1 monitor - type 'help' for more information
(qemu) info mtree
address-space: memory
   0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): system
     0000000000000000-000000003fffffff (prio 0, ram): ram
     000000003f000000-000000003fffffff (prio 1, i/o): bcm2835-peripherals
       000000003f007000-000000003f007fff (prio 0, i/o): bcm2835-dma
       000000003f00b200-000000003f00b3ff (prio 0, i/o): bcm2835-ic
       000000003f00b800-000000003f00bbff (prio 0, i/o): bcm2835-mbox
       000000003f104000-000000003f10400f (prio 0, i/o): bcm2835-rng
       000000003f200000-000000003f200fff (prio 0, i/o): bcm2835_gpio
       000000003f201000-000000003f201fff (prio 0, i/o): pl011
       000000003f202000-000000003f202fff (prio 0, i/o): bcm2835-sdhost
       000000003f215000-000000003f2150ff (prio 0, i/o): bcm2835-aux
       000000003f300000-000000003f3000ff (prio 0, i/o): sdhci
       000000003fe05000-000000003fe050ff (prio 0, i/o): bcm2835-dma-chan15
     0000000040000000-00000000400000ff (prio 0, i/o): bcm2836-control



  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-02 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 148+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-31 13:02 [PATCH 00/86] refactor main RAM allocation to use hostmem backend Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 01/86] numa: remove not needed check Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 02/86] numa: properly check if numa is supported Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 03/86] numa: remove deprecated -mem-path fallback to anonymous RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 04/86] machine: introduce ram-memdev property Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 05/86] machine: alias -mem-path and -mem-prealloc into memory-foo backend Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 06/86] machine: introduce convenience MachineState::ram Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 07/86] initialize MachineState::ram in NUMA case Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 08/86] alpha:dp264: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:11   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-06  0:37   ` Richard Henderson
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 09/86] arm:aspeed: convert valid RAM sizes to data Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 10/86] arm:aspeed: actually check RAM size Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 11/86] hw:aspeed: drop warning and bogus ram_size fixup Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 12/86] arm:aspeed: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 13/86] arm:collie: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 14/86] arm:cubieboard: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 15/86] arm:digic_boards: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 16/86] arm:highbank: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 17/86] arm:imx25_pdk: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 18/86] arm:imx25_pdk: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 19/86] arm:integratorcp: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 20/86] arm:kzm: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 21/86] arm:kzm: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:10   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 22/86] arm:mcimx6ul-evk: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 23/86] arm:mcimx7d-sabre: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 24/86] arm:mps2-tz: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 25/86] arm:mps2: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 26/86] arm:musicpal: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 27/86] arm:nseries: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 28/86] arm:omap_sx1: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 29/86] arm:palm: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 30/86] arm:raspi: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 31/86] arm:sabrelite: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 32/86] arm:sbsa-ref: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 33/86] arm:versatilepb: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 34/86] arm:vexpress: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 35/86] arm:virt: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 36/86] arm:xilinx_zynq: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 37/86] arm:xilinx_zynq: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 38/86] arm:xlnx-versal-virt: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:05   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 39/86] arm:xlnx-zcu102: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 40/86] s390x:s390-virtio-ccw: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 41/86] null-machine: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 15:32   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 42/86] cris:axis_dev88: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 43/86] hppa: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 15:44   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-02 11:31     ` Helge Deller
2020-01-02 12:06       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-02 13:02         ` Helge Deller
2020-01-02 14:47           ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 14:12         ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 14:17           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-02 15:08             ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 15:49               ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-02 16:50                 ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 17:14                   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-02 17:32                     ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 20:09                 ` Helge Deller
2020-01-02 14:41       ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 14:45         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-02 15:35           ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 15:40             ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé [this message]
2020-01-02 17:08   ` [PATCH] hppa: allow max ram size upto 4Gb Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 17:15     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-02 17:36       ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 17:46       ` [PATCH v2] " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 20:22         ` Helge Deller
2020-01-03  9:54           ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-04 15:00             ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-06 10:48               ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-06 11:05                 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-06 11:28                 ` Helge Deller
2020-01-06 16:24                   ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-06 17:03                     ` Helge Deller
2020-01-07 11:21                       ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-07 11:53                         ` Helge Deller
2020-01-07 15:17                           ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-07 15:34   ` [PATCH v3 43/86] " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 44/86] hppa: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 15:45   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 45/86] x86:microvm: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 46/86] x86:pc: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 47/86] lm32:lm32_boards: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 48/86] lm32:milkymist: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 49/86] m68k:an5206: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-07 16:11   ` Thomas Huth
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 50/86] m68k:mcf5208: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-07 16:11   ` Thomas Huth
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 51/86] m68k:next-cube: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-07 16:12   ` Thomas Huth
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 52/86] mips:boston-cube: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:08   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 53/86] mips:mips_fulong2e: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 54/86] mips:mips_fulong2e: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 55/86] mips:mips_jazz: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:06   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 56/86] mips:mips_malta: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:07   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 57/86] mips:mips_mipssim: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:07   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 58/86] mips:mips_r4k: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:08   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 59/86] ppc:e500: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 60/86] ppc:e500: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 61/86] ppc:mac_newworld: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 62/86] ppc:mac_oldworld: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 63/86] ppc:pnv: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 64/86] ppc:ppc405_boards: add RAM size checks Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 65/86] ppc:ppc405_boards: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 66/86] ppc:ppc440_bamboo/sam460ex: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2020-01-01 11:54   ` BALATON Zoltan
2020-01-01 15:39     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-01 18:45       ` BALATON Zoltan
2020-01-02 11:47     ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 15:52       ` BALATON Zoltan
2020-01-02 17:19         ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-10 17:14         ` Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 67/86] ppc:ppc440_bamboo/sam460ex: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 68/86] ppc:prep: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 69/86] ppc:spapr: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 70/86] ppc:virtex_ml507: remove unused arguments Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 71/86] ppc:virtex_ml507: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 72/86] sparc:leon3: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:02   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 73/86] sparc:sun4m: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 74/86] sparc:niagara: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:02   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 75/86] remove no longer used memory_region_allocate_system_memory() Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 76/86] post conversion default_ram_id cleanup Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:04   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 77/86] exec: cleanup qemu_minrampagesize()/qemu_maxrampagesize() Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 78/86] exec: drop bogus mem_path from qemu_ram_alloc_from_fd() Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 79/86] make mem_path local variable Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 80/86] hostmem: introduce "prealloc-threads" property Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 81/86] hostmem: fix strict bind policy Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 82/86] numa: forbid '-numa node, mem' for 5.0 and newer machine types Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 83/86] tests:numa-test: make top level args dynamic and g_autofree(cli) cleanups Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 84/86] tests:numa-test: use explicit memdev to specify node RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 85/86] numa: make exit() usage consistent Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 86/86] numa: remove deprecated implicit RAM distribution between nodes Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 15:58 ` [PATCH 00/86] refactor main RAM allocation to use hostmem backend Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 16:22   ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-03 13:06   ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-03 13:15     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé

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